Motion Detect 15er #2 GAME THREAD

[nutella]

i think that lapras is easily a wolfier slot than boq overall, both achro and i have been kind of taking them as a package deal but that may be a mistake

[Boquise]

i think where i'm at is youre more likely wolf in rask v worlds

if rask flips v i'd look into you/lapras/i guess syn or dya?

and if rask flips w i think i was more likely right about the cape/vulgard world, or cape/dya

but i think there are rask/you worlds available

"Boquise will remember that"

[Raskolnikov]

iand the fact that he called it a "red" even though he already had the firefighter false positive possibility on his mind

two dumb things (about me this game):

- I didn't remember the roles exactly and thought MD only triggered if a slot was performing an action, which is why I immediatly thought w!Ender had tasked himself with a tdome today. Because that makes sense in the world I was living with the ff being a liability for woofs. It's only after I got triggered badly I went and double checked and realized I was wrong about it.

- I am also quick to jump on assumptions sometimes. (I need to make a conscient effort not to)

as I said to Ender, I take my share.

but yeah oof. (last post will be a solve in a v!nutella world)

[Achro]

Why was it a good post then? That's your words, not mine.
I forget names. Mostly reflects on how my reads have been on you and Lapras through the game. Null.

I even pointed it out myself a few seconds afterwards. So it isn't like I forgot you for a long while. This is a bit reachy, or at best just a hurt ego. Perhaps it is concerning though that despite you pushing me and despite all your walls and engagements in the thread - your posts havent been that memorable to me tbh

My initial reaction was it was very towny but as I thought over the topic more I began to wonder if perhaps that was the idea and it was methodical on your part.

You actually got me to 'wtf' that is not easy.

Don't take this the wrong way but I wish you had been poisoned instead of robyn lol. Would take some of the guesswork out of day 1 motivations of people at eod.

I am pretty much speaking whatever comes into my head and taking note of various reactions from people to see who vibes which way. I am entertaining a lot of world views today because it suits my solving to do so.

[Achro]

i think that lapras is easily a wolfier slot than boq overall, both achro and i have been kind of taking them as a package deal but that may be a mistake

Hm

What would that look like. Rak/lapras/syn?

[nebjiamn]

VOTE TALLY AS OF POST #2434


raskolnikov 3 vulgard nutella enderwiggin
vulgard 1 boquise
cape90 1 achro
nutella 1 raskolnikov


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[Syn]

So Rask's mum called and told me to post second result.

And I figure it's late enough to reveal that it says nothing more at all.

Full disclaimer:
Rask's motion was N2 not N1. I was planning to accuse Rask of motion whenever I decided to claim regardless of actual results because:
1. I thought he was wolfy
2. The meme potential

That being said:
Raskol did have motion n2.

Still not a wolf check but still raises wolf stocks.

N1 I got motion on Robyn.

I wanted to put pressure with a intimation of second motion because then wolves have to worry about scrutiny on a second slot.

I honestly think Cape is town but "Raskol treated him not w/w" kinda doesn't work if I'm just wrong and Rask is green.

I'm tired and still have work to do though so I will be back later.

(And have an early day tomorrow so tbh idk if I'll have time to do anything today.)

Au revoir from your latest useless pr.

that's boring. i'm never going to believe the hype again

[Syn]

I liked your ISO of Syn fwiw. AS I said it's not impossible dude just fooled me since his style is smh very specific (I said earlier I didn't believe this was his wolf game because I don't think he has the range to reproduce it, simply because I have not witnessed it before). I watched a couple of his wolf games, but these were a long time ago and he was outed pretty quickly iirc. Maybe it's the game he prooves me wrong. In which case I also agree there is equity with Boq, and also with Dya.

mfw in other games you go "syn is so great, don't let him fool you" and now I am suddenly big poopy butt

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[Syn]

wouldn't it be funny if I vote: Nutella

are you laughing

[dyachei]

some of y'all don't know what "chill game" means and it shows

im pretty sure vulgard is a wolf. I haven't seen him solving beyond saying I'm a wolf

It might be cape, too. I really don't want to reread him. Most of you think I could be a wolf with him, that's fine. As long as we don't miselim first, I don't mind dying to this bs

rask/vulgard/+1 where the +1 might be cape or syn is where I'm at

vote: vulgard

[Vulgard]

Actually wait

does anyone besides me even suspect Boq right now?

Oh no, that's a bad sign.

why is it a bad sign

[Vulgard]

some of y'all don't know what "chill game" means and it shows

im pretty sure vulgard is a wolf. I haven't seen him solving beyond saying I'm a wolf

It might be cape, too. I really don't want to reread him. Most of you think I could be a wolf with him, that's fine. As long as we don't miselim first, I don't mind dying to this bs

rask/vulgard/+1 where the +1 might be cape or syn is where I'm at

vote: vulgard

bolded is disingenuous

i think dya is a wolf

i know this probably looks like straight omgus but i already thought so before and this basically seals the deal for me

[Vulgard]

dismissal of reading cape might just make them w/w here but it's not 100%

[Syn]

some of y'all don't know what "chill game" means and it shows

im pretty sure vulgard is a wolf. I haven't seen him solving beyond saying I'm a wolf

It might be cape, too. I really don't want to reread him. Most of you think I could be a wolf with him, that's fine. As long as we don't miselim first, I don't mind dying to this bs

rask/vulgard/+1 where the +1 might be cape or syn is where I'm at

vote: vulgard

oh we're gaming now

vote: vulgard

[Vulgard]

oh we're gaming now

vote: vulgard

i'm really struggling to believe basically all of your takes this game

[dyachei]

bolded is disingenuous

i think dya is a wolf

i know this probably looks like straight omgus but i already thought so before and this basically seals the deal for me

it's not disingenuous

Why am I a wolf to you? What about my play makes me a wolf? give me details, because it's mostly been vague fucking posturing

[Boquise]

My initial reaction was it was very towny but as I thought over the topic more I began to wonder if perhaps that was the idea and it was methodical on your part.

You actually got me to 'wtf' that is not easy.

Don't take this the wrong way but I wish you had been poisoned instead of robyn lol. Would take some of the guesswork out of day 1 motivations of people at eod.

I am pretty much speaking whatever comes into my head and taking note of various reactions from people to see who vibes which way. I am entertaining a lot of world views today because it suits my solving to do so.

Why was it very townie?

I too wish I was poisoned tbh

[Vulgard]

it's not disingenuous

Why am I a wolf to you? What about my play makes me a wolf? give me details, because it's mostly been vague fucking posturing

i think the way you've handled pushes this game is wolfy, particularly the push on me

you've only pushed me when i wasn't actually going to flip, and you haven't cared about it enough to push it over

your other wolfreads you haven't seemed to care about either, you had concerns about visor but when i asked you if you wanted to push them with me d2 you basically said no, the way you're reading cape right now is also quite dismissive ("i don't want to read him," "i can die as his "w/w partner""), you're basically acknowledging that he could be a wolf but you're treating this as something of no import whatsoever

your loudest push by far is the push on me, but again it's something that's been recurring but never actually made likely, i literally just played a game with v!you where you pushed w!neopest and in that game it was abundantly clear that you were burying her

i recognize that this is a casual game but you just haven't seemed to care about actually getting your wolfreads killed which i find particularly wolfy for you because i know that you do make it clear when you're a villager and you've literally just made it clear in a game we played together

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in regard to disingenuous vs not disingenuous, this is more subjective i guess but i really think i have been solving, it's just not solving with a lot of isoing and depth i suppose but it's still solving

i also find it disingenuous for another reason, and that reason is simple: other people aren't solving either. in fact, ender had barely been solving before he claimed md (though i now understand why). visor wasn't solving at all, either, though he was pr as well, i guess. syn doesn't seem like he's solving, he's just offering takes sometimes. he had a segment where he stubbornly attached to a world of three on day 2 and that was basically all the solving he did that day as far as my memory serves me. then there's lapras who has barely existed this game.

i'm not saying these people are all wolves (though i guess that's possible). i'm also not bringing this up because "oh woe is me how am i getting pushed when others are like me as well!!!," that's not really a factor. it simply feels like you just chose me as a target here because you think it's easier to push that line against me than it is to push that line against the others (lapras has admitted he doesn't have much time for this game, syn might just be playing like this i don't know, visor is visor). it could also be because the others are wolves, or contain a wolf, but even if i assume all three of us are villagers, i'm presumably the easiest player to push against in this way. you don't seem to be holding the 'not really solving' argument as strongly against other players as you are holding it against me right now, and i feel like you're phoning in your reads on them + cape because you don't actually care to solve them, you just want to get me killed

[Vulgard]

dismissal of reading cape might just make them w/w here but it's not 100%

in hindsight this is a bit of a stretch but i can still see it

[Achro]

Why was it very townie?

I too wish I was poisoned tbh

Felt very carefree tbh

[Achro]

Oh shit vulgard dropping his mafia manifesto last minute

[Achro]

some of y'all don't know what "chill game" means and it shows

im pretty sure vulgard is a wolf. I haven't seen him solving beyond saying I'm a wolf

It might be cape, too. I really don't want to reread him. Most of you think I could be a wolf with him, that's fine. As long as we don't miselim first, I don't mind dying to this bs

rask/vulgard/+1 where the +1 might be cape or syn is where I'm at

vote: vulgard

Please rank the players from chillest to non chillest.

[Vulgard]

before anyone argues that i'm not the easiest player in the group i gave to push against by saying i'm "not solving," allow me to remind you of the fact that i've brought this point up about lapras and about syn and in both cases it's gained approximately 0 traction and only a minimal amount of discourse

basically i think they're being given a pass and i'm not because i'm vulgard

and they don't even have to be wolves, all 3 of us could be villagers and this would still be true

i think dya recognized this and that's why the push on me exists

[Vulgard]

i'm not even annoyed by this disproportionate treatment because i'm used to it, i'm just pointing out that it definitely exists and i think the context is important to understanding why i think that dya is a wolf as it's a substantial part of why i think their push on me is wolfy

[Achro]

why is it a bad sign

Something something achro goes on conspiracy of town player being scum and punts game

[Vulgard]

Something something achro goes on conspiracy of town player being scum and punts game

speaking of punting can you explain your thing about lapras to me again like i'm 5? this is in reference to when you pinged me earlier

i have something to say about it but idk if i understand you correctly

[Boquise]

i'm not even annoyed by this disproportionate treatment because i'm used to it, i'm just pointing out that it definitely exists and i think the context is important to understanding why i think that dya is a wolf as it's a substantial part of why i think their push on me is wolfy

Urgh

[Boquise]

This whole spiel is something I associate with Vulgard's town game. Anyone knows how he reacts as scum when pushed?

[Boquise]

Felt very carefree tbh

I am kinda taken aback by the shortness of this reply

[Achro]

I am kinda taken aback by the shortness of this reply

Welcome to micro-tells with your host achro. For every long winded psychology discussion I have I also snap read things.