Cereal killer mafia

[Visor]

so my initial read on wisdom was that they were too slanky to be a wolf but then they made some more posts and i was like woah slow down there chief thats some wolfy stuff

ender still more likely to be a wolf tho imo

[Suibian]

I want to believe in Visor and give Monty a day.

I don't want to follow on ender though even though I should probably accept that he has more experience and my early tone read might be dumb and wrong, but I still like it right now.

I will follow onto wisdom. Their posts seem fine but I don't have an actual read there.

[EnderWiggin]

I want to believe in Visor and give Monty a day.

I don't want to follow on ender though even though I should probably accept that he has more experience and my early tone read might be dumb and wrong, but I still like it right now.

I will follow onto wisdom. Their posts seem fine but I don't have an actual read there.

My wolfrange is "Yes" if that helps.

[Suibian]

My wolfrange is "Yes" if that helps.

Are you saying me tone reading you is dumb because your scum range is that wide? Like you're going hahahaha I will make you paranoid! It's totally fine just fine. I'm good at reevaluating.

[EnderWiggin]

Are you saying me tone reading you is dumb because your scum range is that wide? Like you're going hahahaha I will make you paranoid! It's totally fine just fine. I'm good at reevaluating.

I like making people paranoid =P

[Cape90]

Wanted to look back at the slots I feel like I have barely looked at.

So Suibian... even though they did kinda vote on El Barto... anyways

Are you saying me tone reading you is dumb because your scum range is that wide? Like you're going hahahaha I will make you paranoid! It's totally fine just fine. I'm good at reevaluating.

This is either really towny or really wolfy and IDK which XD

I want to believe in Visor and give Monty a day.

I don't want to follow on ender though even though I should probably accept that he has more experience and my early tone read might be dumb and wrong, but I still like it right now.

I will follow onto wisdom. Their posts seem fine but I don't have an actual read there.

Suibian did say this... kinda generic, but also explains why they wouldn't go Monty there

Kind of like the subtle paranoia of Taffy expecting to be pushed but not being pushed. Makes the thinking I accepted a town read I shouldn't and ignored make more sense.

Sleep - I was kinda expecting your vote to end up on Monty based on your posting so your wisdom vote was a surprise. I didn't remember anything they posted, so I read through their iso to see if I should sheep you and they seem fine? How strong is your meta read there?

Another thing that I also read as either really towny or really wolfy.

Same. I was considering voting Monty but his more recent posts have me feeling like maybe I'm confused by him rather than I scum read him. Don't know.

I agree with this too. When Ladd asked me what I liked about the posts and went back I realized that it was mostly emojis and what I liked were a couple sentences that aren't really all that alignment indicative but I had a knee-jerk maybe I'm just confused by him reaction.

I don't really like this given the Monty flip, like they both very much bother me and Sleep looks good IMO bringing attention to this.

Indeed I do! Will you teach me?

And Ender's post that follows this one makes me feel like my earlier thoughts about Monty were on target and not just confusion. hrm

#203
I get pocket-y vibes here...

His 166 and 167 felt a bit more natural? Looking back there's not a huge reason why and scum could definitely feel a bit more natural as they settle in from early awkwardness, but I liked I liked the scary mind meld with a catch response to taffy and your read's posts, and I liked the bit about bracing himself for humiliatingly misreading ender or kage.

So, yeah not enough to go this guy is town, but enough for me to consider that I might just be confused by his earlier approach.

#166

#167

These posts are fine, I could see how one could townread the second thing, less so the first thing. Also all the things Suibian pointed out are from 167 and not 166 at all, just wanted to point that fact out.

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Yeah let's pretend the obvious town part never happened, though I see where I got that read. I kinda gutread their ISO as wolfy though just looking at it and seeing also how post length also kinda took a back seat (this was mentioning that they didn't like posting like that) (but they did anyways which is )

Don't like their Monty treatment really, if there is a busser, I think it's here more so then Visor

[Raskolnikov]

Wanted to look back at the slots I feel like I have barely looked at.

So Suibian... even though they did kinda vote on El Barto... anyways



This is either really towny or really wolfy and IDK which XD



Suibian did say this... kinda generic, but also explains why they wouldn't go Monty there



Another thing that I also read as either really towny or really wolfy.





I don't really like this given the Monty flip, like they both very much bother me and Sleep looks good IMO bringing attention to this.



#203
I get pocket-y vibes here...



#166

#167

These posts are fine, I could see how one could townread the second thing, less so the first thing. Also all the things Suibian pointed out are from 167 and not 166 at all, just wanted to point that fact out.

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Yeah let's pretend the obvious town part never happened, though I see where I got that read. I kinda gutread their ISO as wolfy though just looking at it and seeing also how post length also kinda took a back seat (this was mentioning that they didn't like posting like that) (but they did anyways which is )

Don't like their Monty treatment really, if there is a busser, I think it's here more so then Visor

What's your current read on Suibian? NGL the bold part made me giggle.

[Raskolnikov]

Kind of like the subtle paranoia of Taffy expecting to be pushed but not being pushed. Makes the thinking I accepted a town read I shouldn't and ignored make more sense.

Sleep - I was kinda expecting your vote to end up on Monty based on your posting so your wisdom vote was a surprise. I didn't remember anything they posted, so I read through their iso to see if I should sheep you and they seem fine? How strong is your meta read there?

Will say I did notice the "I like ur wall" and then voting somewhere else.

not super strong based on what's been posted but i don't have any super strong reads as of right now

got prompted by visor giving me the thumbs up in #208, then saw syn poasting and decided i might be reading too much into his his posts so moved there. hadn't seen the VC at the time or i might've voted monty

Visor why are you scum reading wisdom?

sheepable reason I guess.

I want to believe in Visor and give Monty a day.

I don't want to follow on ender though even though I should probably accept that he has more experience and my early tone read might be dumb and wrong, but I still like it right now.

I will follow onto wisdom. Their posts seem fine but I don't have an actual read there.

I don't like this interaction here between Sui and Sleep. Because she isn't following up with a read there.

[Raskolnikov]

ngl, it was really funny though

[Raskolnikov]

I don't like this interaction here between Sui and Sleep. Because she isn't following up with a read there.

could use help (someone here wrote an article about villaging after all, time to stop slanking)

[Jan]

so my initial read on wisdom was that they were too slanky to be a wolf but then they made some more posts and i was like woah slow down there chief thats some wolfy stuff

ender still more likely to be a wolf tho imo

Wisdom pushing against syn and myself before anyone else didn't feel like a wolf move to me.

[Montmorency]

@Gemma tally plz

Vote: Ender

[Gemma]

Votal 1.5

Monty (3) - Rask (#38), Barto (#67), Wisdom (#185)
Wisdom (3) - Visor (#147), Sleep (#229), Ender (#256)
Barto (2) - Jan (#73), ladd (#175)
Rask (2) - Taffy (#11), Monty (#274)
Jan (1) - Suibian (#9)
Taffy (1) - Syn (#232)

[Suibian]

vote barto

[Wisdom]

vote barto

Making bringing the only wolf up to form 3-3-3 wagons is not how busses happen. Suibian is pretty much lock town now.

[Raskolnikov]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Votal 1.5

Monty (3) - Rask (#38), Barto (#67), Wisdom (#185)
Wisdom (3) - Visor (#147), Sleep (#229), Ender (#256)
Barto (2) - Jan (#73), ladd (#175)
Rask (2) - Taffy (#11), Monty (#274)
Jan (1) - Suibian (#9)
Taffy (1) - Syn (#232)

vote barto

Making bringing the only wolf up to form 3-3-3 wagons is not how busses happen. Suibian is pretty much lock town now.

How do you come up with this when your very next post shows you haven't cleared me at this point in time?

[Raskolnikov]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

How do you come up with this when your very next post shows you haven't cleared me at this point in time?

To be clearer: is anyone reading this as a slip/TMI or should I just shrug it off and move on?

[Montmorency]

Gemma, I messed up the timer. I forgot the fact that by tradition, phases here end at the :01.

:00 good, :01 bad.

[EnderWiggin]

I was gonna change votes but this is a 3-way tie and I like that.

[Syn]

unvote: Taffy

vote: Rask

[EnderWiggin]

unvote: Taffy

vote: Rask

EVEN BETTER

[Visor]

a four way tie is acceptable

[Totally not Taffy]

unvote: Raskolnikov

[Syn]

four-way tie let's go

[Raskolnikov]

@EnderWiggin

ender or wisdom pls

dont kill monty or rask

so my initial read on wisdom was that they were too slanky to be a wolf but then they made some more posts and i was like woah slow down there chief thats some wolfy stuff

ender still more likely to be a wolf tho imo

sorry i don't really feel like explaining 'i looked at their posts and i felt bad'

thats about it

Ohshit

Vote: Wisdom

Votal 1.5

Monty (3) - Rask (#38), Barto (#67), Wisdom (#185)
Wisdom (3) - Visor (#147), Sleep (#229), Ender (#256)
Barto (2) - Jan (#73), ladd (#175)
Rask (2) - Taffy (#11), Monty (#274)
Jan (1) - Suibian (#9)
Taffy (1) - Syn (#232)

I was gonna change votes but this is a 3-way tie and I like that.

So you basically came in at EOD with a case on Monty and saying that your other SR was Jan. post 207

Then Visor comes in asking for you or Wisdom, gives a couple of arguments. You choose to follow up on his joke and vote Wisdom. You stayed there for a while and wagons grew to 4-way tie.

It's not so much that your Wisdom vote is a joke Ender, it's that you appeared to not give a shit to where your vote were going.

Ofc the last minute switch on a villa while El Barto was flipping red shows that most likely all other wagons were town (I am, Monty was and I'd say Wisdom has chance to be given wagonomics) and builds up your scum equity friendo :p

I mean, wagons were pretty stables during the day. (Monty, me)

[Wisdom]

I can probably find the whole wolf team, or at least clear someone, based on who wolves tried to nk, so would be hype to see who the intended nk was.

Unless it's Syn, I guess. That wouldn't tell me much.

[ladd]

So you basically came in at EOD with a case on Monty and saying that your other SR was Jan. post 207

Then Visor comes in asking for you or Wisdom, gives a couple of arguments. You choose to follow up on his joke and vote Wisdom. You stayed there for a while and wagons grew to 4-way tie.

It's not so much that your Wisdom vote is a joke Ender, it's that you appeared to not give a shit to where your vote were going.

Ofc the last minute switch on a villa while El Barto was flipping red shows that most likely all other wagons were town (I am, Monty was and I'd say Wisdom has chance to be given wagonomics) and builds up your scum equity friendo :p

I mean, wagons were pretty stables during the day. (Monty, me)

you seemed pretty confident it was ender/wisdom

if wisdom is a villager due to wagonomics, who do you think is a wolf with ender? i also don't really follow why you think wisdom has a chance to be a villager due to wagonomics

Going to bed

vote: Montmercy

Glgl

man this vote is pretty meh

was it sheeping me still? cause:

1) I voted barto like 10 posts before this one

2) monty had been posting on the page previous to this vote, did you read his posts? did you have any thoughts on them?



just so i dont waste another post on this - i re skimmed visor ISO just in case and i am okay locking him in as a villager and redy to be snowed again

he is hitting all his villa notes to me

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[Raskolnikov]

you seemed pretty confident it was ender/wisdom

if wisdom is a villager due to wagonomics, who do you think is a wolf with ender? i also don't really follow why you think wisdom has a chance to be a villager due to wagonomics

I have never been confident in ender/wisdom, reread my posts. I had an early TR on Wisdom (Tammy posted the post I liked about Syn/me being vv a bit earlier, which reminded some takes from v!Wisdom but these are still all in all ez to make so that read didn't quite stick), but then was left with people I liked more SOD2 hence their positionning in my reads.

Basically both reads were independant.

Now about wagonomics, below are the last VCs of D1:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Votal 1.4

Monty (4) - Ender (#16), Rask (#38), Barto (#67), Wisdom (#185)
Rask (3) - Taffy (#11), Syn (#12), Monty (#13)
Barto (2) - Jan (#73), ladd (#175)
Jan (1) - Suibian (#9)
Syn (1) - Sleep (#84)
Wisdom (1) - Visor (#147)

Votal 1.5

Monty (3) - Rask (#38), Barto (#67), Wisdom (#185)
Wisdom (3) - Visor (#147), Sleep (#229), Ender (#256)
Barto (2) - Jan (#73), ladd (#175)
Rask (2) - Taffy (#11), Monty (#274)
Jan (1) - Suibian (#9)
Taffy (1) - Syn (#232)

Votal 1.7 - EoD1

Monty (4) - Rask (#38), Barto (#67), Wisdom (#185), Ender (#299)
Barto (4) - Jan (#73), ladd (#175), Suibian (#277), Visor (#298)
Wisdom (2) - Sleep (#229), Monty (#299)
Rask (1) - Syn (#279)
Syn (1) - Taffy (289)



El Barto has been yeeted. Flip incoming.

You can see that Wisdom went from having one vote to being top wagon before EOD shenanigans. IIRC before sleep and Ender voted them, several folks, including you/Visor had voiced the fact they had me as maybe villa and that the stuff on to Monty were not so hot (you posted something like that for sure). So maybe it's a stretch, but I can definatly see Wisdom being another villa wagon built up to help avoiding El Barto flip.


Gonna revisit this EOD with a town!Ender mindset to see if I can make sense of it.

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin



So you basically came in at EOD with a case on Monty and saying that your other SR was Jan. post 207

Then Visor comes in asking for you or Wisdom, gives a couple of arguments. You choose to follow up on his joke and vote Wisdom. You stayed there for a while and wagons grew to 4-way tie.

It's not so much that your Wisdom vote is a joke Ender, it's that you appeared to not give a shit to where your vote were going.

Ofc the last minute switch on a villa while El Barto was flipping red shows that most likely all other wagons were town (I am, Monty was and I'd say Wisdom has chance to be given wagonomics) and builds up your scum equity friendo :p

I mean, wagons were pretty stables during the day. (Monty, me)

I have never voted outside my main scumread to maintain a tie.

Never. (/s)

Vote: Rask

Sorry but this just reads off given you both know and have HELPED me make tie situations at EOD when I've voted not my main scumread until the last minute.

[EnderWiggin]

Which given I assume ~3 PRs for this kind of setup means we've successfully all claimed D2.

Semi-bucket strats I guess?