Cereal killer mafia

[ladd]

ok im leaving for real now, probably not going to be at EOD tho if i'm lucky i might get back a few minutes before. prob should have considered my schedule before subbing in, sorry abt that.

wish i could be more help but think game is in a good place anyway, atm i'm kind of fine to go with the flow and let other people lead because i trust their instincts more than my own. unless someone wants me to sheep i'm just gonna not vote

unvote

man i am such a sucker lol

i wanna v read this post so bad



alrighty rask thx

Ender/cape as the team is kinda making ~everything make sense to me right now so I'll live in this world for a while. I just have 1 hung up

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[ladd]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I feel like this could be a scummy quote



You are the same person that predicted Visor would die in the night aren't you?



This sounds like a towny thought to say, but I am unsure if it means anything for Taffy just because I have seen wolves do stuff like this (though I don't recall the context of this post, this isn't something I have noticed from Taffy, but I also checked them last before just crashing into bed).



Again, I do think this post is towny

Do you have the same feelings about ladd now? I mean you literally did say that ladd used a generic reason to push you and also said that the last time this happened ladd was wolf but also i dont think u voted ladd for any of this so...



Eh.



Well I have looked far and wide but there isn't a read on Wisdom in your ISO, but what is your Wisdom read? I am curious

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I still think EnderWiggin is town after looking again though, thought he popped in today kinda towny too with the Mont sus with justifications... after the fact that they don't matter anymore

While reading cape iso before this wall struck me as kinda w/w looking with a villa read that didnt feel like it had a ton of meat behind it and every comment on a quote being matched with also a softball question

I disagree with this line of logic actually. I feel like Ender was townread enough day 1 to where as wolf, I have a feeling that he could end up in a position to where he feels comfy enough to save his mafia partner

like i could see that even though I am currently thinking that he's just town

and then this post kinda feels like a wolf who saw his teammate getting cleared for a reason he doesnt agree with so he explains why its a bad reason while still calling him town

Well I have looked far and wide but there isn't a read on Wisdom in your ISO, but what is your Wisdom read? I am curious

Forgot to respond to this. I kind've don't have one. Wisdom felt like they were doing something and I don't have the best track record and I didn't understand Visor's sus on me let alone Wisdom so I just sorta ignored it in favour of the person I thought was sus.

this also is something I generally find to be >rand w/w from experience. dont ask me why

also cape wall to ender had more questions for him but i think (could be wrong on that, cba to double check) ender only saw the last one cause he probably didnt read the full wall. You know who does not read posts carefully? wolves when they read the posts of other wolves eheh


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[ladd]

vote: ender

gonna leave this as a place holder in case i dont come back but most likley i'll be back in a couple of hours

to be clear I am not as convinced on this as it may seem, I am just having some fun

but I have the most reasons to think ender is a wolf out of anyone so I am gonna vote him. sorry if wrong

[Jan]

vote: ender

gonna leave this as a place holder in case i dont come back but most likley i'll be back in a couple of hours

to be clear I am not as convinced on this as it may seem, I am just having some fun

but I have the most reasons to think ender is a wolf out of anyone so I am gonna vote him. sorry if wrong

vote: ender

He says fun.
I say let's go!

[Syn]

wack

[Raskolnikov]

Cape's iso is sure an ode to Ender's villagery. (in addition to what Ladd just brought) THere are some uncalled mention to him to stress that lol

for instance in post 351.

(outrageous post btw, mostly filled with shades - yeah sorry, I didn't come back after friday afternoon and it's not AI lol, these questions would look differently otherwise. dare to say, if u think of it, it's one of the thing that makes me more likely villa than wolf, but Cape didn't think through it - or problems/questions that I have answered prior to this post. Finally, when I get back to one read I had early on Monty, it's also a reason to suddenly vote me lol)

[Visor]

@EnderWiggin

claim or die at this point i guess bronana

[Totally not Taffy]

7 not that I'm ever going to hit postcap lol

is there a reason you felt the need to claim? not doubting it but just, like, why

Sorry for ignoring your post yesterday, the truth was that I knew that between coming off a delayed flight of horrors I'd be starting the mash D6 quasi solo on 2,5 hours of sleep, then have a bunch of rl engagements I couldn't get out of today and I just wouldn't get here until now if I didn't post when I did. So it was either that or waste 75% of town's day while risking getting maj'd simply for not being here. Remember I ended D1 being called a wolf by three people for unvoting Raskolnikov and then starting today with Syn clearly out for my blood.

taffy prob docced me or visor. i hope its visor so i dont have to tinfoil him

Why would I ever doc Visor I'd have to townread him first and afair that hasn't ever happened. Ngl I've been debating lying about it and just saying it was you bc I docced the person who I believed was the other PR and now with Syn I'm not so sure anymore I want to give them the towncred. Or help the wolves find them. Like if you already think Monty was not an obvious wolf target...

I really don't think your "Monty is claiming PR" is as obvious and believable as you think it is. neither your "I was claiming" and "Monty was claiming" look to be anything remotely comprehensible to me

you might have seen him as claiming, but that seems to be a uniquely taffy affair

I got it, Raskolnikov got it, Visor got it, and that's just the people who hinted at it in thread. Assuming that at least one wolf also got it is not so far out there, and personally I think you're denying it so hard and so loudly it sounds like "I could never be a wolf shooting Monty, honest!".

But I'll trust Ladd's reads over mine here.

[Totally not Taffy]

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basically ender committing to saving barto at eod doesn't make a lot of sense

for one, if it fails it just kills him the next day (and people were village reading him)

or at least makes it hard for him to survive the day (and if he succeeds, low odds of barto livign the game and if he dies, ender always dies)

basically his end goal if voting to save barto is to give him one more day - but it also relies upon barto being able to talk his way out of dying

just feel like the safe option is to bus your partner there and think ender would know that

comes across as a move devoid of ulterior motives, basically

This post contradicts itself. Ender did vote in a way that could have saved Barto, and here we are with you calling it twtbaw, which is exactly the defense I've seen him use himself for doing exactly this as a wolf. And you know him longer and better than I do. You should not be townreading him for this.

yeah but then he left it up to the last minute to make it look as bad as possible

like if he is planning to vote monty anyway, he votes and keeps the vote on monty earlier

he looks terrible now because right at the last second he 'voted to save a wolf', but if he voted earlier and kept it there, we wouldn't be having this conversation (i.e. because he wasn't thinking ahead of time in terms of wagon construction, he showed up, yoloed around and madethe worst possible vote, as a wolf he at least votes monty earlier so it doesnt stick out like a sore thumb when he does it imo)

Yeah, dude, you need to give up on this read because it's bad. Ender 100% does this as a wolf, and exactly for this reason. Read him off of other things.

Also you never answered my question: why were you ok with Monty and Raskolnikov being in a four-way tie right after asking everybody not to kill them? That is really still bothering me.

@Visor ping me if you do reply

[Raskolnikov]

Cape's progression on me is unreal tbh. It feels like he doesn't give a damn about my slot. (it's not like he asked me anything, nor have read the replies I gave to people asking the same stuff that he did apparently)

He goes from shades to posting "???" to "die potato" lol

I am really laughing out loud rn.

[Raskolnikov]

I live for Ender's claim tbh.

[Totally not Taffy]

I live for Ender's claim tbh.

Wait what did I miss why would Ender be claiming?

[ladd]

Why would I ever doc Visor I'd have to townread him first and afair that hasn't ever happened. Ngl I've been debating lying about it and just saying it was you bc I docced the person who I believed was the other PR and now with Syn I'm not so sure anymore I want to give them the towncred. Or help the wolves find them. Like if you already think Monty was not an obvious wolf target...

You are gonna die tonight so we need this info out in the open, especially since the wolves most likely already know assuming they shot your target

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[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin



So you basically came in at EOD with a case on Monty and saying that your other SR was Jan. post 207

Then Visor comes in asking for you or Wisdom, gives a couple of arguments. You choose to follow up on his joke and vote Wisdom. You stayed there for a while and wagons grew to 4-way tie.

It's not so much that your Wisdom vote is a joke Ender, it's that you appeared to not give a shit to where your vote were going.

Ofc the last minute switch on a villa while El Barto was flipping red shows that most likely all other wagons were town (I am, Monty was and I'd say Wisdom has chance to be given wagonomics) and builds up your scum equity friendo :p

I mean, wagons were pretty stables during the day. (Monty, me)

I have never voted outside my main scumread to maintain a tie.

Never. (/s)

Vote: Rask

Sorry but this just reads off given you both know and have HELPED me make tie situations at EOD when I've voted not my main scumread until the last minute.

[Syn]

Why would I ever doc Visor I'd have to townread him first and afair that hasn't ever happened. Ngl I've been debating lying about it and just saying it was you bc I docced the person who I believed was the other PR and now with Syn I'm not so sure anymore I want to give them the towncred. Or help the wolves find them. Like if you already think Monty was not an obvious wolf target...

not revealing is extremely anti-town

why would you ever claim if you're not going to reveal your doc target

I got it, Raskolnikov got it, Visor got it, and that's just the people who hinted at it in thread. Assuming that at least one wolf also got it is not so far out there, and personally I think you're denying it so hard and so loudly it sounds like "I could never be a wolf shooting Monty, honest!".

But I'll trust Ladd's reads over mine here.

they didn't get it

yes you're right I'm a wolf. you caught me. ooooo. I claimed vig when it wasn't necessary (people already told you they had no intent on listening to you deciding the wagons; I claimed specifically to save your [and possibly Cape's] time and effort) and guaranteed my death before LYLO for a five-layered genius wolf master plan

[Totally not Taffy]

@EnderWiggin

claim or die at this point i guess bronana

Ohhh I get it.

[EnderWiggin]

@EnderWiggin

claim or die at this point i guess bronana

I haven't caught up but I'm all in on believing Visor at this point.

I am Vest Giver - I gave Visor a vest N1. (Hence my "I'm invested in Visor" daystart post. Which I believe he picked up on hence his weird read of me.)

[Raskolnikov]

@EnderWiggin

claim or die at this point i guess bronana

@taffy I am memeing about this post. (because I think Ender is a wolf and will come in with a lol claim at EOD)

[EnderWiggin]

Which given I assume ~3 PRs for this kind of setup means we've successfully all claimed D2.

Semi-bucket strats I guess?

[Raskolnikov]

lmao sock xpost.

I luv u Ender

[Raskolnikov]

ok so Visor, do you confirm?

Rest of the class, do you think VIsor/Ender ww is NOT possible? why?

[EnderWiggin]

Also I wanted to shade Syn to maybe keep them around but there are reasons that their claim fits very well with mine so I do actually 100% believe them.

[ladd]

Oh i thought visor tracked ender nowhere lmao

Would the vest work if wolves tried to kill visor the same night?


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[Totally not Taffy]

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One wolf in Visor/Ender.

Is that a difference check? Because if I ignore Syn I can easily see that as the team. I don't want to, but I can.

i really hate the bolded part here lol

Especially because of that. Never a good sign when ppl try to downplay their own wolfgame. Also they're both townreading eachother for bad reasons.

this post makes me consider a rask/ladd world tbh

This world scares me but I don't really believe in it.

vote: Sleep

we need more information

Lolno we're not giving the wolves a free yeet.

[anythign from sleep or wisdom would be gr8 thx

Ohhh I forgot Gira is Sleep here. Sorry Syn.

Well yes but I also kinda still want your head on a pike. You understand.

....

What.

I was voting Wisdom as a joke.

I thought that was obvious. My whole "Top ten anime betrayals" joke was because I thought it was literally so obvious that I was gonna swap back last minute. (I originally voted because of a Visor post and I was feeling funny, and stayed on it because it was a tied vote and I like tied votes because people flinching at tied votes can be useful down the line once we have a few flips.)

Vote: Rask

Given how much you've seen me meme around and in fact called me out on it once when you said everyone knew I was going to go back to voting my prime sus at very eod, I really feel like this read is opportunistic given the sus on me.

On the one hand, yes voting Wisdom was a joke, but on the other hand that's also a great way for a wolf to wait and see how the wagons evolve and then make a last-minute switch without attracting attention.

[ladd]

ok so Visor, do you confirm?

Rest of the class, do you think VIsor/Ender ww is NOT possible? why?

Cause of d1 lol they are def not w/w

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[EnderWiggin]

Oh i thought visor tracked ender nowhere lmao

Would the vest work if wolves tried to kill visor the same night?


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I...

Assume so?

Lemme confirm.

[Visor]

if i can pick up on a soft, so can yall

yall suck :P

[Visor]

Oh i thought visor tracked ender nowhere lmao

Would the vest work if wolves tried to kill visor the same night?


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yes cause that is why i am alive lol

[EnderWiggin]

On the one hand, yes voting Wisdom was a joke, but on the other hand that's also a great way for a wolf to wait and see how the wagons evolve and then make a last-minute switch without attracting attention.

Yes.

Everything I can do as town I can do as wolf.

But acting like I don't intentionally create ties and make waiting votes as town is just... not true.

[EnderWiggin]

yes cause that is why i am alive lol

Wait actually? Lmao.

I'm a god.