Cereal killer mafia

[Syn]

vote: Raskol

[Syn]

Such an odd choice of work considering you were the most likely person to die in the night based on claims.

why would he die before the claimed JOAT

[Jan]

why would he die before the claimed JOAT

because the joat had already used their protective and would like use kp this night.

the protective who is basically a doc on all the drugs can not be protected that night.

In the end if the vestgivingdoc role protects the joat claim there is just no kill unless roleblock is an option.

[Visor]

Sorry wisdom my bad

Taffy goat

[Syn]

because the joat had already used their protective and would like use kp this night.

the protective who is basically a doc on all the drugs can not be protected that night.

In the end if the vestgivingdoc role protects the joat claim there is just no kill unless roleblock is an option.

no chance it's infinite vests lol

[Jan]

no chance it's infinite vests lol

no chance vests proc the night they get handed out, but here we are. :P

It could 1-shot
could be there can only be a vest at any given time, but you can vest again after it pops.
wolves could simply have a roleblocker to counter it.

Hard to judge.

[ladd]

Makes sense

My feeling without re reading is that wolves are in cape/sleep/sui

Tho i will do due diligince on both jan/rask (esp rask given the visor n1 nk and syn read there, but i thought they were villagery d2 shrug.jpg). I was a bit confused by rask's legacy post since they were obv never dying

Wrt jan he just has a bunch of posts that I buy he is being honest, some not even relative to reads. But again i will do due diligence

Back to sleep

[Suibian]

I don't mean to be rude but that has got to be some of the most superficial and dumbest partner analysis I've seen someone provide on me. Maybe I'm being a bit more tetchy about it because you're insinuating I was going "ho ho ho I didn't see a claim wink wink," which is quite frankly insulting. I even told you that I was five pages behind when you asked a question that day because I'd just gotten home from work. I don't have the kind of job that I can play mafia and work; if I post here and there, it's because I'm posting in between classes or meetings. I was trying to keep up on what was going on at the time while catching up with what I'd missed during the day.

The opening interactions between us is just how we interact. We've been playing with each other off and on since 2012, and the first few times I replaced into a game that sleep was in, he asked me that question, and I in turn ask him that when he replaces into games I'm in. He's a friend; it's just banter and a bit of a way to interact and maybe get the start of a read. I respect sleep's scum game, so it takes me a bit longer to feel comfortable on a read on him. He probably gets annoyed at how often he's quite obviously town, and I'm squinting at him. I definitely didn't have an innocent on him once and still concocted reasons he could be a godfather because I was so paranoid of him, nope nope I did not.

I typically don't try to piss people off in a mafia game. It's just not me; I don't like making games unpleasant, and I try to remember that there's an actual person playing the game and doing their best in most instances. I do get annoyed sometimes and then I can be a real bitch, and I'll probably feel bad about calling your partner analysis of me dumb for the rest of the week. (Unless you're scum and then I'll feel vindicated.) I have been told I'm too nice before, so this isn't the first time I've heard it, it's just that you're wrong about that. This is just me.

I'm also annoyed at the fake claim, which might be fueling my annoyance here with your post. One of the reasons I got fed up with mafia and stopped playing was because of crap like that. I get it, nice to pull the nightkill, but it's just such a waste of town's time to try to make sense of claims when one person is lying. I'm just glad they pulled the nightkill so that it wouldn't be another wasted day of trying to make sense of the claims. I spent the night getting more and more convinced that ender was a scum bp giver because the claims didn't make sense all coming from town.

That being said, I do feel like absolute dead weight this game. My reads suck; I know I'm town reading someone I shouldn't be, but I don't know who. I've thought about it and I really don't know. Maybe it's because I haven't played mafia in a year, or it's the slow game or deadlines or I'm just having a shit game. I don't know, but I've seen the floating suspicion. I get it; it's hard to know what struggling town looks like especially when you don't know the person. I understand, it's cool.

And sorry for calling your partner analysis dumb. If you're town you're doing what you should be doing, and you don't know me, so you wouldn't know how that is just missing the mark. Anyway, I'm going to bed. It's super past my bed time.

[EnderWiggin]

Sui.

If I could ask you to do one thing for me, could you try to run your current reads from most to least townread?

I know you said you townread everyone, but I am just trying to grasp your reads as best I can. Just top of your head "Who do I townread most out of my townreads" kind of deal.

I do understand the frustration of being sussed by people who don't know you. I tend to be very lasseiz faire about how I act in mafia games and as you've seen I get sus for just trying to follow my nose.

(That being said, and this isn't trying to poke things at you at all, but frustration about the fakeclaim is kind of where I would expect a wolf to be after nking a villager like that.)

[EnderWiggin]

Makes sense

My feeling without re reading is that wolves are in cape/sleep/sui

Tho i will do due diligince on both jan/rask (esp rask given the visor n1 nk and syn read there, but i thought they were villagery d2 shrug.jpg). I was a bit confused by rask's legacy post since they were obv never dying

Wrt jan he just has a bunch of posts that I buy he is being honest, some not even relative to reads. But again i will do due diligence

Back to sleep

Lemme know what you think about my Sui/Sleep theory. I liked it a lot overnight.

[EnderWiggin]

Such an odd choice of work considering you were the most likely person to die in the night based on claims.

Ngl when I went into night phase I didn't consider myself a very likely kill.

[Suibian]

Sui.

If I could ask you to do one thing for me, could you try to run your current reads from most to least townread?

I know you said you townread everyone, but I am just trying to grasp your reads as best I can. Just top of your head "Who do I townread most out of my townreads" kind of deal.

I do understand the frustration of being sussed by people who don't know you. I tend to be very lasseiz faire about how I act in mafia games and as you've seen I get sus for just trying to follow my nose.

(That being said, and this isn't trying to poke things at you at all, but frustration about the fakeclaim is kind of where I would expect a wolf to be after nking a villager like that.)

I said yesterday at end of day my two strongest town reads out of the non claimed were Jan and Ladd. I’m not going to do a list; I don’t do lists. My I town read everyone was not quite serious.

Just for the record I expected that response about me being frustrated about the fake claim. I’m not an idiot to think that someone trying out to make a case on me wouldn’t make any that point. It’s how I feel, try to make it look however you want to.

I am fine going today if that makes it easier for town to figure out the game though.

[Suibian]

Phone posting in bed sucks. Sorry for terrible grammar.

[Cape90]

Well I had enough game sense to think that JOAT claim was hugely sketch coming from Taffy

What I didn't know was Taffy was just GOATed with the sauce

I spent the night getting more and more convinced that ender was a scum bp giver because the claims didn't make sense all coming from town.

I also was indeed thinking about this, but I came to the conclusion that Ender was the likely true-est claim

It just makes no sense coming from scum

Like if scum!Ender gave a vest to town!Visor which Visor claimed that the thing had been popped. Like Visor in this scenario would have to be the target of a vest AND the mafia night kill which seems like a not such a great play with 1 mafia already down and likely 2 to go.

Or if both Ender/Visor were w/w, it really seems like a complete YOLO move to just fake handing out a vest to your partner to claim that it's been popped, esp since Ender's vest claim is obviously the most provable claim out there.

Now Visor as scum is somewhat more likely... especially in a w!Syn world cuz i did tinfoil that world a tad bit

Kinda thought Ender should have gave a vest to Taffy anyways for easily being the most powerful PR claim out of a 1 shot vig who already used and obviously himself (if that's even possible).

I am only here for a tad bit longer, I do not feel good at all, like my stomach feels THRASHED and IDK why :(

[Cape90]

I don't even see how I was "all over the place" tbh.

Like sure I can agree that my timing on my Monty vote was sus. Even if it was very very strongly foreshadowed by my previous actions. But that's not "All over the place"

I believe you were calling me mafia but then were like on like 3 other people. This is me recalling stuff instead of actually looking because im lazy when I feel like trash :)

[Cape90]

yo ender

#191

thx for the ammo

Vote: Sleep

[Cape90]

I like Cape's posting and wanted to townlock him but tbh he's on a real weird place for me rn for two reasons. 1. That EOD was wild for Cape's town meter. 2. I normally heavily sus him when we're t/t (I've intentionally avoided randomly pushing him as town purely because I've found myself at odds if he's also town.) So the fact that I don't sus him this game makes me feel tinfoily

1. I thought my EOD was quite towny. Also have seen ppl push me for having bad EOD's before and I would argue that EOD is FAR from my worst, postcap kinda made me sweat that EOD though since I literally posted 50 times and I usually like hyperposting EOD and i couldn't really do that :p

2. I will take that as a compliment or at least a sign that my town game is actually getting townier then it was a year or two ago. I get townread quite a bit on this site so idk if i just play townier on here or what

[EnderWiggin]

I believe you were calling me mafia but then were like on like 3 other people. This is me recalling stuff instead of actually looking because im lazy when I feel like trash :)

I only called you mafia at EOD I think. And even then I was never voting you at the time.

That being said I left my vote on Rask when I meant to move it so >.>

I am glad he didn't get flipped cause of it lmao

[Syn]

I only called you mafia at EOD I think. And even then I was never voting you at the time.

That being said I left my vote on Rask when I meant to move it so >.>

I am glad he didn't get flipped cause of it lmao

I'm not

[Suibian]

Can’t fall asleep, but before you start congratulating each other on ammo:

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...nt-of-Darkness

Banter.

Scum read me or him, hell call us partners, that’s whatever but come on guys you can come up with something better than fixating on an obvious joke.

[Raskolnikov]

Sup, so we had just 3 fakeclaims. Lmao.

So we basically yoloed on Wisdom yesterday. Cool.

Kindof pissed at Visor/Enders play rn, gotta reread some . Thinking Ender comes off towny out of it, Visor not so much (unless ww and they both fooled us to avoid Enders chop which was happening).

Taffys claim was goated though, thats true.


Ladd, I posted a legacy because I was tied up with Wis at :59. (Lol potatoes)

Speaking of which, Syn I expect town!you to be obtuse, but still if you could like reeval some reads it would be huge. Because you are tunneling me since my first lol post and its getting old.

I will reread from Enders claim and post more later today. Kinda upset rn sorry. If I had a day vig id shoot Visor immediatly

[EnderWiggin]

wdym 3 fake claims?

[Raskolnikov]

I think Visor is town. For now. The talk at EOD with the fake claim shot made me think it's possible he's wolf and is going to milk me giving him a vest. But this is paranoia speaking.

I was assuming that this meant you didn't give him a vest or it didn't trigger. Do you confirm I read it wrong, or?

[Raskolnikov]

(...)
Either way

Vote: Raskolnkov

I think this and Taffy are looking mighty sus to me and both are voting me so, I feel like I am just gonna OMGUS here ;)



When posts like this exist, it's hard not to read into what Rask is doing as "agendaless". It's hard to take seriously in general his whole meltdown over me shading a bunch of slots when this exists

Last post i have for today
(...)


like Rask has talked about his own previous posts which is a towntell
(...)

k thx bye

1. I thought my EOD was quite towny.

[ladd]

Lemme know what you think about my Sui/Sleep theory. I liked it a lot overnight.

i dunno lol best i'll say is "its not impossible", not v helpful i know

every team i come up with doesnt leave me 100% satisfied so i feel i am def missing something

Sup, so we had just 3 fakeclaims. Lmao.

So we basically yoloed on Wisdom yesterday. Cool.

Kindof pissed at Visor/Enders play rn, gotta reread some . Thinking Ender comes off towny out of it, Visor not so much (unless ww and they both fooled us to avoid Enders chop which was happening).

Taffys claim was goated though, thats true.


Ladd, I posted a legacy because I was tied up with Wis at :59. (Lol potatoes)

Speaking of which, Syn I expect town!you to be obtuse, but still if you could like reeval some reads it would be huge. Because you are tunneling me since my first lol post and its getting old.

I will reread from Enders claim and post more later today. Kinda upset rn sorry. If I had a day vig id shoot Visor immediatly

I don't follow this post...like at all. why do you wanna dayvig visor? taffy flipped vt so visor was almost surely just the nk

I spent the night getting more and more convinced that ender was a scum bp giver because the claims didn't make sense all coming from town.

what was your theory with how that worked with visor claiming his vest got popped?

[Raskolnikov]

letting aside Ender's business and assuming the vest didn't trigger (think it's Jan who posted that it wouldn't trigger on the same night it was handed), what happened N1?

What does it mean for Syn? (like I fail to see wolves killing Monty - I should actually reread his ISO)

[Raskolnikov]

i dunno lol best i'll say is "its not impossible", not v helpful i know

every team i come up with doesnt leave me 100% satisfied so i feel i am def missing something



I don't follow this post...like at all. why do you wanna dayvig visor? taffy flipped vt so visor was almost surely just the nk



what was your theory with how that worked with visor claiming his vest got popped?

I am just trying to make sense of the claims rn. Who lied, etc... How is Visor alive if he the vest wasn't active?

[Raskolnikov]

I am just trying to make sense of the claims rn. Who lied, etc... How is Visor alive if he the vest wasn't active?

fwiw I have doubts about the vest because of Ender's own doubt about Visor's alignment.

[ladd]

letting aside Ender's business and assuming the vest didn't trigger (think it's Jan who posted that it wouldn't trigger on the same night it was handed), what happened N1?

What does it mean for Syn? (like I fail to see wolves killing Monty - I should actually reread his ISO)

visor already claims it got triggered so here is what (most likely) happened n1:

- wolves shot visor

- ender gave vest to visor and vest got broken

- syn shot monty


The only viable alternative is that wolves shot monty and visor is claiming his vest got broken to earn lack clear status but..like why would wolves shoot monty there

(also fwiw i think 3 villa PRs is perfectly plausible in a closed 13er)

(Jan saying it can't be broken the same night was just an assumption i believe)



@Jan where are you at in terms of reads?

[ladd]

Silly question of the day -

How does it feel to replace into a scum slot? Sweatin cold buckets?

Couldn’t resist going back to bed.

Did you know who sleep was here?