Cereal killer mafia

[Suibian]

Votal 2.3

Rask (3) - Cape (#352), Ender (#431), Wisdom (#475)
Ender (2) - Sleep (#358), Rask (#412)
Sleep (1) - Syn (#418)
Wisdom (1) - Visor (#490)

ok im leaving for real now, probably not going to be at EOD tho if i'm lucky i might get back a few minutes before. prob should have considered my schedule before subbing in, sorry abt that.

wish i could be more help but think game is in a good place anyway, atm i'm kind of fine to go with the flow and let other people lead because i trust their instincts more than my own. unless someone wants me to sheep i'm just gonna not vote

unvote

wheres your head at now suibian

Not real sure. I was kinda hoping you’d die last night so I could avoid that little rabbit hole lol.

There’s a part of me that thinks if he played that way that his partner was not in the Poe and he trusted that they would take it home. But perhaps he was just busy and demotivated, and I shouldn’t read into things.

I hope it’s just cape, but I don’t trust me.

[ladd]

I am out and about

It isn't me

But I don't blame anyone who wants to vote me lol I played not so good

K thx

I dont get this feeling at all tbh

You subbed in a tough spot and pushed a wolf. Why not played well (regardless of alignment really)?

[ladd]

like why? I agree with this read fwiw, I think Cape is getting more heat than he has never had this game and is increasing the workload as a response, but not in a towny way (because he goes back to mostly unrelevant things now). So why not just yeet a wolf toDay, and resolve sleep l8r (whom I am having an hard time thinking this is his scum game, + Suibian's posts etc..)

Tbh this post is worse than anything suibian posted wrt sleep

And why id kill rask before suibian if its somehow not cape

[Jan]

the only part about my poe that changed is that ladd and visor are fully locked in.

[ladd]

the only part about my poe that changed is that ladd and visor are fully locked in.

Yea i mean cape/rask/suibian def wins the game but Id prefer to end it today

[Jan]

Yea i mean cape/rask/suibian def wins the game but Id prefer to end it today

I have a somewhat problematic thought.

Talking game balance:
13-player Mountainous is a perfectly balanced game, right?

Let's say you add a 1-shot vig
How do you balance the wolfteam to make it work?

If you add a 1-shot vig and 1shot bp giver
How do you balance that?

Because both wolves so far have flipped goon.


Anyways enjoy your Saturday!

[ladd]

I have a somewhat problematic thought.

Talking game balance:
13-player Mountainous is a perfectly balanced game, right?

Let's say you add a 1-shot vig
How do you balance the wolfteam to make it work?

If you add a 1-shot vig and 1shot bp giver
How do you balance that?

Because both wolves so far have flipped goon.


Anyways enjoy your Saturday!

15er mountainous is generally considered balanced (so+2 vts)

With just a 1 shot vig and 1 shot bpv id honestly give the wolves just a weak pr (role cop) or nothing at all

[Jan]

15er mountainous is generally considered balanced (so+2 vts)

With just a 1 shot vig and 1 shot bpv id honestly give the wolves just a weak pr (role cop) or nothing at all

15 is balanced? nevermind then.

I grew up on the hard streets of Werewolf Village. But that very much removes the paranoia in my head.

[Cape90]

I dont get this feeling at all tbh

You subbed in a tough spot and pushed a wolf. Why not played well (regardless of alignment really)?

I am usually a player who has strong opinions on game and I feel like I just kinda struggled this game getting into it tbh. And now I know the answer to that is a lot of the ppl who have been active talking were pretty much all town

I do not envy whoever the last mafia is. They are doing well whoever they are as I just have no idea honestly

Like visor is a more believable NK then Montmorency so I can think Ender/Visor aren't very tinfoilable actually

Also Ender was part of the reason why I voted Sleep though. But I would have pushed Sleep likely over anyone else that day anyways, even Rask.

[Visor]

pretty much where I am at.
would explain a lot about the whole game.

this is where i am at too, i think

[Visor]

Vote: cape

[Raskolnikov]

I am at a wedding for most of the day so will most probably post tmr.

Gotta say I think its Suibian for what Visor expanded on D3 and that EOD3. I actually voted sleep at eod because I thought she was scum so y.

I kinda agree with Ladd some of my posts about sleep and my progression on him kinda stinked but it is what it is and actually should be read more villa than anything else because whats the plan for wolf!me at this point heh. Tbh this is smh valid for Suibian D3 so I am willing to give her some space and will keep solving her and Cape whenever I have more time toDay. ToDay is not the time to look at a deepwolf possibility imo.

Anyway su l8r (drunk poasting for the lock clear baby, lettuce go )

[ladd]

vote:cape

Visor gonna steal my credit for voting the last wolf first again smh

[Cape90]

towniest to least towniest cape voters

Rask > Jan > Suibian (didn't like their hedginess on me EOD) > Sleep (obviously :p)

I'm kinda in a position to where I don't think it was a bus, if it was, well played

Vote: Suibian

Even though I think Sui has a lot of townpoints from how towny i have found some of their posts, no idea who they are other then Suibian in other news.

[Cape90]

like Suibian EOD kept waffling on me and Sleep

I also respect Sleep's scum game, but I was also in a position of just finding everyone else pretty towny/null-towny

[Cape90]

I think this game is fairly straight forward otherwise but fair warning to me being voted will only waste time, especially in a game where i dont think there is majority?

[Cape90]

towniest to least towniest cape voters

Rask > Jan > Suibian (didn't like their hedginess on me EOD) > Sleep (obviously :p)

I'm kinda in a position to where I don't think it was a bus, if it was, well played

Vote: Suibian

Even though I think Sui has a lot of townpoints from how towny i have found some of their posts, no idea who they are other then Suibian in other news.

oh and I put rask over Jan because of Rask's attempted sleep vote at EOD that I just DO NOT think mafia would do at all

[Cape90]

then again, the only unconfirmed on the sleep wagon to me is basically ladd who is also really towny

which leaves me with not a lot to even say

[Cape90]

last thing

if you think that I just hard bus my mafia partner over Rask day 3, that's on you noobs

[Gemma]

Votal 4.1

Suibian (3) - Rask (#1021), Ender (#1024), Cape (#1064)
Cape (2) - Visor (#1061) ladd (#1063)

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[Suibian]

Vote: sleep

(buying what Ender is saying)

If you were buying what ender was selling, why did it take you that long to jump on sleep?

[Suibian]

Today was attack on titan day so no mafia.

Though I’m not real sure there is much to do.

I hope it’s as easy as it’s cape, but I’m not convinced.

Rask’s change of reads don’t feel quite real and the change on me felt a bit opportunistic, but his opening vote on me felt a bit like he really thinks the game is over after limming me. There’s a bit of fire in his tone towards me that I haven’t seen all game, and I don’t want to believe gira wouldn’t vote him on the day he was in trouble, but yesterday he did vote cape when he could have voted Rask instead.

Yeah I just hope it’s one of those. I’m not gonna spin my wheels though.

[Suibian]

last thing

if you think that I just hard bus my mafia partner over Rask day 3, that's on you noobs

I don't think you hard pushed him yesterday, but even so bussing was probably the smart thing to do yesterday.

[Jan]

I think sleeps death was always happening and if the wolf cared about winning they would at least try to get something from the death.

I am not certain if that something is putting on a show like Rask is doing today or simply placing a correct vote and praying for cred.

But unless you believe the Wolfteam to have given up complety by yesterday some sort of gain must have come from this.

Which is why I don't think Sui is a wolf unless the Wolfteam has silently conceded.
You can bring up levels of wifom here but I believe this to be a rather simple matter.

[ladd]

I think sleeps death was always happening and if the wolf cared about winning they would at least try to get something from the death.

I am not certain if that something is putting on a show like Rask is doing today or simply placing a correct vote and praying for cred.

But unless you believe the Wolfteam to have given up complety by yesterday some sort of gain must have come from this.

Which is why I don't think Sui is a wolf unless the Wolfteam has silently conceded.
You can bring up levels of wifom here but I believe this to be a rather simple matter.

Yea i dont really think suibian is a wolf

Their target yesterday for "pushing" wa visor..that was obv never gonna happen

Rask tried to push you which is a more believable push from a wolf who wants to open up the PoE

Or its just cape who "bussed" (he voted sleep at SoD, those are the most common w/w votes cause you distance early then give yourself the whole day to change your mind)

[ladd]

Gotta say I think its Suibian for what Visor expanded on D3 and that EOD3.

What specifucally did you like about visor case?

[ladd]

I think cape posted well since he subbed in to be clear but:

- the posts i find villagery from him are mostly the posts immediately after he subbed in and those are easy to fake. He also has a couple of p bad posts (yday eod, post about ender)

- suibian is the most villagery for me posting wise among rask/cape/suibian. Their eod yesterday wasnt great tho i agree with that

- rask has some really villagery posting but also some really bad stuff (+syn read there). Personally i think they are a villager after all cause of the good stuff but ymmv and they are def 1 of the 3 kills

- lastly, sleep+2 afk slots just makes the game have more sense than any other team for how d1 played out

[ladd]

I'm torn. I guess I'd expect a little more paranoia from cape, but he seems like lol. And I don't want to vote sleep. hrm.

Why torn if you were clearly leaning cape wolf over sleep?

[ladd]

Re read a bit of d3

Think sui/rask are villas and cape is the wolf, i wont elaborate cause i am lazy


See you close to eod

[ladd]

Sui still my strongest v read among those 3

When sleep talked about them it felt very pocket-y and suibian has a looooot of villagery thoughts