Cereal killer mafia

[ladd]

I'm torn. I guess I'd expect a little more paranoia from cape, but he seems like lol. And I don't want to vote sleep. hrm.

Why torn if you were clearly leaning cape wolf over sleep?

[ladd]

Re read a bit of d3

Think sui/rask are villas and cape is the wolf, i wont elaborate cause i am lazy


See you close to eod

[ladd]

Sui still my strongest v read among those 3

When sleep talked about them it felt very pocket-y and suibian has a looooot of villagery thoughts

[ladd]

Gotta say I think its Suibian for what Visor expanded on D3 and that EOD3. I actually voted sleep at eod because I thought she was scum so y.

Why did you think she was a wolf at eod?

Ender read was just based on sleep being a wolf afaict no?

You had suibian has like your top villa before eod

[ladd]

Why did you think she was a wolf at eod?

Ender read was just based on sleep being a wolf afaict no?

You had suibian has like your top villa before eod

As*

[Gemma]

Votal 4.2

Suibian (3) - Rask (#1021), Ender (#1024), Cape (#1064)
Cape (2) - Visor (#1061) ladd (#1063)

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[Cape90]

Vote: Jan

well I dislike ur posting today so uh die

[Cape90]

i would probably go Jan before Sui thinking just about who technically has more town points

[Cape90]

anyways this is where i go get chili and if nobody shows up... idk maybe i will just kinda casually read Jan's logs like a book and preflip him because that's cool and not lame

[Suibian]

Why torn if you were clearly leaning cape wolf over sleep?

As I was catching up I had pretty much decided I was going to vote Rask yesterday due to how strongly syn was pushing it, his read changes feeling off and my regret from not doing it the day before. But by the time I caught up he was no longer a wagon and it was between cape/sleep with me breaking the tie which made me feel more pressure to get it right. I did consider that regardless of sleep’s alignment maybe I should vote there anyway because he’d clearly given up, would be too busy to play the next day to turn around suspicion and maybe I was wrong. I did wonder if perhaps I was trying too hard to make him town when I shouldn’t be. If my reasons were dumb or if I was dinging my heels in because I was feeling a bit contrarian considering some of the case was based on us being partners. In that case then I shouldn’t hijack the day and not vote him for those dumb reasons, but then I thought about his post yesterday where he complained about getting tunneled a lot for dumb reasons, and I remembered that when I was reading through his forum posts to see if he was gira, it looked like he didn’t have a good time in his last game here, so then that made me feel bad and not want to vote him again.

In the midst of me considering that maybe it would be better game wise to vote him, cape was posting so weirdly. While I did think he was more likely to be scum, he did have some townie sounding posts, which was also fueling my “maybe I should go ahead and vote gira” thoughts. I wondered if he was scum against town or partner and didn’t know what to do so was throwing a bunch of posts to make it look like he was doing something. I didn’t know what to make of it and it made a mess of what I was trying to decide there.

As far as why I lacked paranoia on him this game? I have been able to get to a mostly town read on him based on his thoughts and reads before. And my paranoia on him stems from how capable I consider him to be as scum. The games that I’ve gotten paranoid of him isn’t because he looks scummy for the most part. It stems from me thinking I’m being snowed. The game I had an innocent on him and thought he could be a godfather stemmed in part from a jackass who fake claimed masons with scum and a push that I thought could be scum motivated. So my paranoia is usually when he’s playing well and I worry he’s going deep. Here it was all because I know he can play well as scum that I thought even if busy, he’d be able to make minimal effort as scum that would help his team. And I think when you are super busy like that it’s almost easier to be scum because you can just make shit up instead of have to actually think. So I thought he’d feel an obligation to his team to help in some way rather than what he was doing here. While I was not paranoid of him this game, I did consider that my reasoning for the read wasn’t great since it was based on how I thought he wouldn’t behave as scum which is always dangerous.

[Suibian]

Whoa that was longer than I thought. It’s a mass inside my head lol

[Suibian]

*mess inside my head

[Suibian]

Rask while it is townie to change your reads; it doesn’t mean all read changes are townie especially when they don’t read like real changes.

[Suibian]

Vote: cape

[ladd]

alrighty thx to both for the answers

20

[ladd]

Not sure ill be able to check back in

Go with god

Adieu

[Cape90]

As I was catching up I had pretty much decided I was going to vote Rask yesterday due to how strongly syn was pushing it, his read changes feeling off and my regret from not doing it the day before. But by the time I caught up he was no longer a wagon and it was between cape/sleep with me breaking the tie which made me feel more pressure to get it right. I did consider that regardless of sleep’s alignment maybe I should vote there anyway because he’d clearly given up, would be too busy to play the next day to turn around suspicion and maybe I was wrong. I did wonder if perhaps I was trying too hard to make him town when I shouldn’t be. If my reasons were dumb or if I was dinging my heels in because I was feeling a bit contrarian considering some of the case was based on us being partners. In that case then I shouldn’t hijack the day and not vote him for those dumb reasons, but then I thought about his post yesterday where he complained about getting tunneled a lot for dumb reasons, and I remembered that when I was reading through his forum posts to see if he was gira, it looked like he didn’t have a good time in his last game here, so then that made me feel bad and not want to vote him again.

In the midst of me considering that maybe it would be better game wise to vote him, cape was posting so weirdly. While I did think he was more likely to be scum, he did have some townie sounding posts, which was also fueling my “maybe I should go ahead and vote gira” thoughts. I wondered if he was scum against town or partner and didn’t know what to do so was throwing a bunch of posts to make it look like he was doing something. I didn’t know what to make of it and it made a mess of what I was trying to decide there.

As far as why I lacked paranoia on him this game? I have been able to get to a mostly town read on him based on his thoughts and reads before. And my paranoia on him stems from how capable I consider him to be as scum. The games that I’ve gotten paranoid of him isn’t because he looks scummy for the most part. It stems from me thinking I’m being snowed. The game I had an innocent on him and thought he could be a godfather stemmed in part from a jackass who fake claimed masons with scum and a push that I thought could be scum motivated. So my paranoia is usually when he’s playing well and I worry he’s going deep. Here it was all because I know he can play well as scum that I thought even if busy, he’d be able to make minimal effort as scum that would help his team. And I think when you are super busy like that it’s almost easier to be scum because you can just make shit up instead of have to actually think. So I thought he’d feel an obligation to his team to help in some way rather than what he was doing here. While I was not paranoid of him this game, I did consider that my reasoning for the read wasn’t great since it was based on how I thought he wouldn’t behave as scum which is always dangerous.

i kinda like this post

but also kinda do not like it at all

[ladd]

As I was catching up I had pretty much decided I was going to vote Rask yesterday due to how strongly syn was pushing it, his read changes feeling off and my regret from not doing it the day before. But by the time I caught up he was no longer a wagon and it was between cape/sleep with me breaking the tie which made me feel more pressure to get it right. I did consider that regardless of sleep’s alignment maybe I should vote there anyway because he’d clearly given up, would be too busy to play the next day to turn around suspicion and maybe I was wrong. I did wonder if perhaps I was trying too hard to make him town when I shouldn’t be. If my reasons were dumb or if I was dinging my heels in because I was feeling a bit contrarian considering some of the case was based on us being partners. In that case then I shouldn’t hijack the day and not vote him for those dumb reasons, but then I thought about his post yesterday where he complained about getting tunneled a lot for dumb reasons, and I remembered that when I was reading through his forum posts to see if he was gira, it looked like he didn’t have a good time in his last game here, so then that made me feel bad and not want to vote him again.

the bolded is what i thought overnight was ~lock clearing for suibian cause it completely lines up with them saying this earlier in the game about having to read sleep posts to know who sleep was (gira)


i know for a fact that gira got tilted in an earlier game on org (cause i was in it) so taht shows me they ACTUALLY read through sleep iso to check who they were and that just doesnt happen if they are w/w imo



this is the cherry on topping but I do think they are a villager in general but the above just seems very hard to fake



so ya for me its rask or jan (esp if jan is clearing suibian and they cannot be w/w)

[Jan]

the bolded is what i thought overnight was ~lock clearing for suibian cause it completely lines up with them saying this earlier in the game about having to read sleep posts to know who sleep was (gira)


i know for a fact that gira got tilted in an earlier game on org (cause i was in it) so taht shows me they ACTUALLY read through sleep iso to check who they were and that just doesnt happen if they are w/w imo



this is the cherry on topping but I do think they are a villager in general but the above just seems very hard to fake



so ya for me its rask or jan (esp if jan is clearing suibian and they cannot be w/w)

Yeah.

Basically 2 between you me and Rask can die and we have to hope the wolf is in there.
Which is easy success for the person who endgames as either alignment.

[ladd]

Yeah.

Basically 2 between you me and Rask can die and we have to hope the wolf is in there.
Which is easy success for the person who endgames as either alignment.

no offense but i think i am easily the most findable :p



i'll prob vote rask tho i cant say i am 100% sure cause rask has been posting good, you being a wolf would make my meta read on you obsolete which I kinda doubt (and hope is not true)


also everytime i re read the game your/suibian initial mindmeld on ask read as v/v to me, i just wasnt sure if it was on a wolf

[ladd]

i also dont really believe in frame kills so syn pushing rask hard and dying def doesnt seem great for them

i'll see what ende thinks but thats where i am leaning

[Jan]

i also dont really believe in frame kills so syn pushing rask hard and dying def doesnt seem great for them

i'll see what ende thinks but thats where i am leaning

syn had both you and rask in his bottom 3 and cape in the middle pack. Either way it was a good kill for the wolf.

[Jan]

no offense but i think i am easily the most findable :p



i'll prob vote rask tho i cant say i am 100% sure cause rask has been posting good, you being a wolf would make my meta read on you obsolete which I kinda doubt (and hope is not true)


also everytime i re read the game your/suibian initial mindmeld on ask read as v/v to me, i just wasnt sure if it was on a wolf

I'll be honest. My brain is fried at the moment.

I have been awake since 3 am and it is now 11pm.
So I just wanted to wait for anything or anybody to be around before I lock my vote somewhere and collapse.