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    Objectively you are 10x more villagery Ladd.

    The problem is that I respect your wolfgame a lot and your ability to sound villagery and this game has been a lone wolf mess d2 onwards.

    Which makes this really hard.



    I think going into the day as a wolf you would have doubled down on voting me.
    With me questioning ender I kind of gave you a curveball to consider if you're a wolf.
    I don't really think that would have been high on your list of expected plays.

  2. #2

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan View Post
    Objectively you are 10x more villagery Ladd.

    The problem is that I respect your wolfgame a lot and your ability to sound villagery and this game has been a lone wolf mess d2 onwards.

    Which makes this really hard.



    I think going into the day as a wolf you would have doubled down on voting me.
    With me questioning ender I kind of gave you a curveball to consider if you're a wolf.
    I don't really think that would have been high on your list of expected plays.
    yea, your posting f3 honestly saved the game (kinda)

    I had you as a villager after your last post of ysterday but i still would have found it hard to vote for ender today if you had not posted so well in f3



    idt i vote so early as a wolf tbh, ender was on you yesterday after all. I can just wait and maybe he misvotes




    as for why ender is a wolf, i'll ust requote my case from d2:

    Quote Originally Posted by ladd View Post
    i dont get how you can make this statement when d1 i basically said part of what you said about monty before you and iirc we had similarish reads

    and now of all statements to agree with...its wanting more out of rask/wisdom which is something so generic




    and now you apparentely think i am a wolf - why? because i am pushing you and i pushed you another game before when I was a villager? idk man that doesnt make much sense to me, am i not allowed to push you anymore cause 1 game i was a wolf in i pushe dyou lol


    i think i have explained fairly well why i think you are a wolf this game (it doesnt take a lot of imagination to think of a world where you are a wolf) but just in case i'll re explain it:

    you voted monty in what was basicall RVS on pg.1 for (imo) a silly reason, then you turned that into a real (and your only) push towards EoD by quoting basically every post in monty iso and calling it wolfy

    then you made this post to monty:




    which to me really reads like the classic wolf trying to appease the villager they are pushing by asking some generic questions they don't care to have the answer to (which visor iirc called out, which is why i am even more confuse dby him backing off today)


    then from this point on, you have 0 interactions, re valaution or pondering/doubt on monty alignment until you snipe him at the end of EoD:



    hope this helps


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  3. #3

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    actually 32 posts. well since I don't have to convince anyone anymore that should be enough to put down a vote.

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    i am cool with bussing but

    1) i hate having to explain why i am alive in f3, now it lined up nicely cause of the PRs and visor stuff but ya

    2) i still vastly prefer to win before F3s cause while I don't HATE wolfing, i def ratehr end the game earlier

    3) i don't buss both wolves in the same exact way lmao

    4) me and visor were the only 2 players to vote both wolf wagons

    5) ender's eod1 is the wolfiest thing in the game

    6) i have tried to revalaute every step of the way, i have given the villagers who have been mislunched this game basically eveyr possible beenfit of the doubt (just check how many time si went back and forth on rask, i had wisdom as a slightl villa lena before the ender/visor stuff, i was a bit unfari to cape the last day i guess but otherwis emostly had him as villa)

    7) i have made the suboptimal mislunch every step of the way if I am a wolf - d4 people came out gun abalzing to mislunch suibian after sleep flip and i defended them when suibian is obviously a far better mislunch for me

    8) i truly believe my find yesterday to clear suibian was sick and something i would not find as a wolf

  5. #5

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    9) sleep was TMIing me villa d2 and leaning on me in a way wolves do on villagers (see their vote on ender sheeping me)

  6. #6

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladd View Post

    1) i hate having to explain why i am alive in f3, now it lined up nicely cause of the PRs and visor stuff but ya
    Why would Taffy die N1 as wolf if wolves had reason to believe that she could be false hmmmmmmm

  7. #7

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    I had thoughts on Ladd's D1 sus changing around being sus if you remember.

    Also if I was wolf I feel like playing "Keep Visor alive to create paranoia" would absolutely be something I do. Also because it becomes less of a me thing then.

    I also don't just case Sui/Sleep > Lead on Sleep > Drop the Sui side of the case later.

    I can't say much about my posting because I seem to be easily sussed as town in the first place (Ladd has used me as ml bait in games he got wolf and I randed town. I mentioned it earlier because him D1/2 pushing me is exactly what he did last time he randed wolf too. He knows I'm not the greatest at reading people who pressure him and I also just tip over randomly because I don't have the ability to defend myself super well. But that's all meta so means tosh and all.)

  8. #8

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    Feeling kinda frustrated I just gave up on that push earlier when he told me off for sussing him just because he pushed on me tbh

  9. #9

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    I also want to point out that Ladd really wants cred for how Sleep "TMI'd him as villager". Which is actually something I see wolves do where they do something specifically for x reaction and when they don't get that cred or reaction they keep pointing at it.

    And he also has tried very hard to buddy up to you with his "Your posting really solidified this f3 for me, you posted so well in f3".

    Which is how he's treated you a fuck ton this game.

  10. #10

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    I also feel like if I was wolf I would've picked one of you to target overnight and actually prepared stuff instead of sitting here trying to work it out.

    But again, that's not really something that helps you here. Metametametameta.

  11. #11

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    I need to sleep tbh. I'll be back after sleeping. Sorry. ><

  12. #12

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    I also feel like if I was wolf I would've picked one of you to target overnight and actually prepared stuff instead of sitting here trying to work it out.
    Suibian was generally considered the clearest. Why would you pick me or jan?

  13. #13

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnderWiggin View Post
    Why would Taffy die N1 as wolf if wolves had reason to believe that she could be false hmmmmmmm
    Oh thanks for the reminder


    Having 2 roles able to protect on n1 was a bit weird so wolves would have an easier time buying taffy claim if they knew ender wasnt real

  14. #14

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    Quote Originally Posted by ladd View Post
    Oh thanks for the reminder


    Having 2 roles able to protect on n1 was a bit weird so wolves would have an easier time buying taffy claim if they knew ender wasnt real
    I also have played a lot with Taffy and could've told you that claiming like that wasn't really her style as actual PR.

    So if I was wolf I'd probably be more worried about another pr that hasn't claimed at all.

    Tbh with you if I was wolf idk why I don't just start with Jan/you because the game comes apart a lot more if the claims come into question and stay alive and I get a lot less of "why is the pr not dead yet".

    Pointless musing but an interesting thought.

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