17er Saints and Martyrs

[Hally]

vote: syn

Eheh

[Zack]

I don't feel like it lol

Nah dude

If you want to play the card where you appeal to authority and demand people falls in line and follows you, put on your big boy pants and explain it

You're not the only person good at reading logic and I am nowhere close to a lock town, not even worth discussing read. When's the last time you even played with him?

[Arctic]

Spice?
Maybe:


As a reaction to you thinking he would not be w/w with arctic based on his quick vote.
At the time I thought it might actually spew arctic if Murska is a wolf and the whole reaction felt like a bit much.

I have overreacted because somebody simply made a bad read before, but this read only implies if you are Murska is a wolf so it should not matter.

But I am fairly aware that I have red tinted glasses when reading Murska posts at the moment.


Most other stuff is not spicey. if your read is correct then ladd and wisdom jump up in my reads.


Gemma is a really weird spot because she clearly joined the thread with a plan but never really did anything with it.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

She enters thread by copying the same format someone else used earlier.
This is to some extend a call back to a joke, but also makes it clear she has read some of the thread and that this might not be an rvs vote.


After which there is talk about missing the rvs phase but wanting to shitpost. Which she didn't really do that much outside of 1 prepared post.

She then quotes me while I am talking about not wanting to play ww at this moment and asks this:


GH at this point has no real content and only shitposts. Really odd person to ask to be read. All of it felt like she had an agenda either towards me or gh or both but I was not sure what her alignment is.
She went into her initial posts with a plan and the plan was not shitposting. The shitposting was some dress up on the side.

Dunno just a thought that has been in my head ever since but never felt like there is a reason to push on it.

this summarizes my thoughts on gemma pretty well and they are also in the group of people idk what to do with but not because i don't have thoughts just because i have conflicting thoughts

it felt like she entered with an agenda / unnatural focus but then carried on posting in a way that kinda broke away from this but still didn't really get villagery

[Wisdom]

Sorry friend if this ain't a hit but tbh sorry if it is as well

vote: Arctic

I'm just not feeling anything coming from you! You're being way too waffly and UTR-y

[Arctic]

tbh ladd is probably mafia but idk if i care to prove it right now

syn is a fine shrug wagon if they aren't gonna play the game but the wagon comp on them doesn't really inspire confidence

dya's recent posts did nothing for me personally so i'm curious what the people who were insistent on letting them cook have to say about that

[GeneralHankerchief]

Nah dude

If you want to play the card where you appeal to authority and demand people falls in line and follows you, put on your big boy pants and explain it

You're not the only person good at reading logic and I am nowhere close to a lock town, not even worth discussing read. When's the last time you even played with him?

I enjoyed playing with you much more yesterday than I am today fwiw, there's no need for that

but as you wish

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

Good, you clicked through this spoiler. This isn't actually Asari high command. They're too busy tending to what's left of their planet.

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

I'm honestly not sure what there is to say? It's not about his reads, and it never has been. It's basically an if/then sort of deal, if he's been classically wolfy then he's probably got a red role pm. If he's been anything else, then he's not. He's been out on a limb enough with a number of his takes where I'm comfortable saying that he doesn't fit into the archetype I've looked out for.

I feel like you should have been there on this by now because I got pretty close to there reasonably quickly with his overnight posting and then got the rest of the way with his stuff from this morning

[Wisdom]

From my PoV Arctic's just been doing easy takes, it's not like I have a great meta read history to back this off but I do think he's more prone to do more stuff by himself than I've seen him do so far.

[Arctic]

Sorry friend if this ain't a hit but tbh sorry if it is as well

vote: Arctic

I'm just not feeling anything coming from you! You're being way too waffly and UTR-y

only a sith deals in absolutes

also i'm not UTR at all wtf i just have a life and taffy invited me to this game cuz they know i like light games cuz i don't have time to threadcamp all day

how am i more UTR than half the lobby

[Wisdom]

This thread looks vastly different on PC
Now I can even differ what people are saying from their quotes!

[Wisdom]

only a sith deals in absolutes

also i'm not UTR at all wtf i just have a life and taffy invited me to this game cuz they know i like light games cuz i don't have time to threadcamp all day

how am i more UTR than half the lobby

I mean, there's a difference between being UTR while in thread and ... not being in thread. In my opinion you're the former. I'm not talking about activity as much as approach/focus!

[dyachei]

this is like not at all what happened here

not tryharding does not equate to doing literally nothing AI which was the case in this game, and also in this game part of what made it wolfy from dya was the fact this was the first read they decided to make

it wouldn't read wolfy if someone asked them to give a gth take on GH or they forced it later in the game cuz they didn't have a take on GH yet, but the reason it's problematic is cuz it just wasn't necessary at all and it's a weird place for a villa to be focused

i'm coming for you when dya flips wolf (yes this implies a level of confidence that i haven't previously expressed, but i came to the realization earlier that i have not actually misread dya as far as i can remember and this just flat out feels like their wolfgame and i feel like you should know this too)

your level on confidence is wrong

I've made this read on GH in a number opf games including wolf games because it's how i read him. He's readable when doing nothing AI because he does things as a wolf when he's comfortable not doing anyhthing as a villager

the fact that you guys keep saying he hasnt done anything so he's not readable is patently false. I'm getting a lot of flak for it but it's one of the ways I read GH

[Logic]

I'm sitting here at work, awaiting an answer from my boss (4 levels above me) to say whether or not the memo I drafted is good enough for his signature or if I have to go back to the drawing board.

AMA

[dyachei]

and for that matter arctic doesn't know me well enough to make confident reads on me regardless of alignment imo. He's played a few turbos with me and that's basically it.

his level of confidence on a wrong read is really concerning me because he's a better player than that

[Wisdom]

I think Dya shooting fire here probably makes them town!

[Logic]

and for that matter arctic doesn't know me well enough to make confident reads on me regardless of alignment imo. He's played a few turbos with me and that's basically it.

his level of confidence on a wrong read is really concerning me because he's a better player than that

My experience with arctic (1 or two games) is that he's usually very confident in his reads as town.

[dyachei]

My experience with arctic (1 or two games) is that he's usually very confident in his reads as town.

he's not usually confident in reading me to begin with so him being so sure on a wrong read is a problem

[Zack]

I can't follow wisdoms posts or process at all, like genuinely every post my reaction is p much water u talking about

Also vote: GH

See you fellas tomorrow

[Hally]

vote: arctic

[Arctic]

your level on confidence is wrong

I've made this read on GH in a number opf games including wolf games because it's how i read him. He's readable when doing nothing AI because he does things as a wolf when he's comfortable not doing anyhthing as a villager

the fact that you guys keep saying he hasnt done anything so he's not readable is patently false. I'm getting a lot of flak for it but it's one of the ways I read GH

so my confidence is wrong but not the read?

I dunno why you keep harping on the GH thing at this point anyway. I'm not changing my mind on it being wolfy, and if you're town it would be best for you to focus on other things or find a wolf. I've read your later posts and as I just said nothing really moved the needle for me because the other takes you gave in 401 just feel uninspired, and the closest thing you have to a wolfread is on the top wagon Ender so I can't give you the benefit of the doubt when that feels like an extremely easy push to make

[dyachei]

so my confidence is wrong but not the read?

I dunno why you keep harping on the GH thing at this point anyway. I'm not changing my mind on it being wolfy, and if you're town it would be best for you to focus on other things or find a wolf. I've read your later posts and as I just said nothing really moved the needle for me because the other takes you gave in 401 just feel uninspired, and the closest thing you have to a wolfread is on the top wagon Ender so I can't give you the benefit of the doubt when that feels like an extremely easy push to make

both are wrong, as I've said. But your level of confidence is truly awful

I won't vote ender today because I have a history of always wolf reading him

And ffs if you guys would do anything other than misread me, I'd focus on other things. But since this seems a popular thing to comment on, damn right I'm going to respond

Also I find that my town reads d1 are more important so like fuck off with the you don't have wolf reads thing

[Arctic]

and for that matter arctic doesn't know me well enough to make confident reads on me regardless of alignment imo. He's played a few turbos with me and that's basically it.

his level of confidence on a wrong read is really concerning me because he's a better player than that

i played a hydra game with you recently and immediately found you as mafia

this was also after i specced the first hydra game and townread you

i have not misread you in any turbo, either, as far as i can remember, so given all of this why would i not be confident? you can scumread me if i'm wrong i guess, but not for being confident when it makes perfect sense for me to do so

[Arctic]

I think Dya shooting fire here probably makes them town!

speaking of the hydra game in question someone said this there and it was was flat out wrong so i'm gonna nope this real quick

[dyachei]

i played a hydra game with you recently and immediately found you as mafia

this was also after i specced the first hydra game and townread you

i have not misread you in any turbo, either, as far as i can remember, so given all of this why would i not be confident? you can scumread me if i'm wrong i guess, but not for being confident when it makes perfect sense for me to do so

you have absolutely misread me before

[dyachei]

when i flip v, please flip arctic

[dyachei]

hydra games are also not the same as normal games. As evidenced by having 2 players in 1 slot. I also didn't try at all in that hydra game for many reasons

try again, it feels like you're making shit up to bolster yourself

[Arctic]

when i flip v, please flip arctic

(srsly tho are u this confident just cuz of omgus? i find that rather hard to believe but umm okay. i have a lot of other posts)

[Hally]

when i flip v, please flip arctic

how about we just flip him today?

you’re not getting D1’d lol

[dyachei]

(srsly tho are u this confident just cuz of omgus? i find that rather hard to believe but umm okay. i have a lot of other posts)

it's not just OMGUS as I've explained

You basically attached yourself to someone else's wolf read which I think is kind of wolfy anyway, then told us all how confident you are. Do some thinking for yourself because this isn't that

[Arctic]

hydra games are also not the same as normal games. As evidenced by having 2 players in 1 slot. I also didn't try at all in that hydra game for many reasons

try again, it feels like you're making shit up to bolster yourself

i'm not making stuff up tho everything i've said is verifiably true -.-

maybe it wasn't your best game, but i do find u to be pretty obviously a wolf when u are a wolf but mostly by virtue of ur towngame being quite good and bcuz u tend to have a lot of interesting thoughts. none of which i've seen in this game. but i don't really want to waste more posts on this cuz i don't think it helps either of us. i think u should do something else if you're town

[GeneralHankerchief]

dya, thoughts on Gemma?

having a hard time getting a read on that slot personally