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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    I can't follow wisdoms posts or process at all, like genuinely every post my reaction is p much water u talking about

    Also vote: GH

    See you fellas tomorrow
    I have had the same thought process about wisdoms posts.... And misread them like 3 games in a row lol

    Someone else can figure them out lol

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    Logics posts on the last page are still bad lmao

    I'll be back around EOD but won't be there for it obv

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    Arctic seems completely fine to me, don't get people's issue with him.

    Confused by people saying they're swayed by dya's posting today, it honestly seems almost exactly how they tend wolf ime? Little breadth to their reads, hyper-focused on finding one person to go back and forth with. I don't think they are villagy at all.

    Sort of related to the above two points, almost immediately regretted saying Hally made a good post because I didnt care for their subsequent posts lol.

    I guess I'm missing something with Syn, because him doing nothing like this is pretty much what I expect from him, and I'm pretty sure there's been at least one time I pushed him hard as v/v for being like this. I don't really know his meta though and he has done nothing that's actually towny, so I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by Visor View Post
    Logics posts on the last page are still bad lmao

    I'll be back around EOD but won't be there for it obv
    yeah it just seems like he doesn't really care about solving

    i thought GH's reason for lock-towning him was weird ("he isn't classically wolfy therefore town" or something) because it's kind of the opposite of how I think about reading Logic, he has a certain genuine belief in his pushes as a villa that really shines through and it simply isn't here, like at all. The confidence in it and the way it was presented also just seemed off, GH literally said he was expecting to plop in and vote Logic with a "sorry about the rand" comment* but a few nothingburger posts flipped it to the point of LOCK town and shutting down discussion? what lol. Seems off.

    *I also want to note that Logic's read on me is, like, nonsense.

    1. He says I should read him well and I said he was wolfy, ergo I am suspicious.

    2. Except Logic immediately said that I've been "legitimately wrong" and pushed him incorrectly before, so what? (For the record, it's not a coincidence he can't think of a specific instance and vaguely gestured to it being a thing that probably happened, because it doesn't exist, and if it does it was at least 5+ years ago or so far removed from relevance to not matter.) Regardless, even if Logic does believe this, it invalidates the entire reason for wolfreading me, no? We haven't even played that many games together, so if you believe this strongly that I've been wrong in a small sample together, then wolfreading me for thinking you're suspicious early day 1 because of an expectation I read you perfectly is ludicrous.

    3. GH, after Logic had already made this read on me for this reason, said "I was anticipating dropping a vote on [Logic] at some point during the day with an attached "sorry about the rand" type of comment" so clearly people experienced with Logic thought it was perfectly rational to think Logic was wolfy at that point. Logic didn't seem to take any issue with GH saying this, (or with Visor expressing concern with Logic either, far as I can tell). Why I am singled out? Doesn't this suggest it was actually completely plausible for me to genuinely find you wolfy? Why would I have townread you anyway? Based on what??? My magic divinity crystals?? The people who can magically discern your alignment from a bunch of nothing are WOLVES, not villagers, because they have the answers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    Arctic seems completely fine to me, don't get people's issue with him.

    Confused by people saying they're swayed by dya's posting today, it honestly seems almost exactly how they tend wolf ime? Little breadth to their reads, hyper-focused on finding one person to go back and forth with. I don't think they are villagy at all.

    Sort of related to the above two points, almost immediately regretted saying Hally made a good post because I didnt care for their subsequent posts lol.

    I guess I'm missing something with Syn, because him doing nothing like this is pretty much what I expect from him, and I'm pretty sure there's been at least one time I pushed him hard as v/v for being like this. I don't really know his meta though and he has done nothing that's actually towny, so I guess.



    yeah it just seems like he doesn't really care about solving

    i thought GH's reason for lock-towning him was weird ("he isn't classically wolfy therefore town" or something) because it's kind of the opposite of how I think about reading Logic, he has a certain genuine belief in his pushes as a villa that really shines through and it simply isn't here, like at all. The confidence in it and the way it was presented also just seemed off, GH literally said he was expecting to plop in and vote Logic with a "sorry about the rand" comment* but a few nothingburger posts flipped it to the point of LOCK town and shutting down discussion? what lol. Seems off.

    *I also want to note that Logic's read on me is, like, nonsense.

    1. He says I should read him well and I said he was wolfy, ergo I am suspicious.

    2. Except Logic immediately said that I've been "legitimately wrong" and pushed him incorrectly before, so what? (For the record, it's not a coincidence he can't think of a specific instance and vaguely gestured to it being a thing that probably happened, because it doesn't exist, and if it does it was at least 5+ years ago or so far removed from relevance to not matter.) Regardless, even if Logic does believe this, it invalidates the entire reason for wolfreading me, no? We haven't even played that many games together, so if you believe this strongly that I've been wrong in a small sample together, then wolfreading me for thinking you're suspicious early day 1 because of an expectation I read you perfectly is ludicrous.

    3. GH, after Logic had already made this read on me for this reason, said "I was anticipating dropping a vote on [Logic] at some point during the day with an attached "sorry about the rand" type of comment" so clearly people experienced with Logic thought it was perfectly rational to think Logic was wolfy at that point. Logic didn't seem to take any issue with GH saying this, (or with Visor expressing concern with Logic either, far as I can tell). Why I am singled out? Doesn't this suggest it was actually completely plausible for me to genuinely find you wolfy? Why would I have townread you anyway? Based on what??? My magic divinity crystals?? The people who can magically discern your alignment from a bunch of nothing are WOLVES, not villagers, because they have the answers.

    well I regret saying I was getting there on Logic too since his Vanta push is bad and I don't think he believed her reaction was cementing it.

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    found it

    Quote Originally Posted by Zack View Post
    Confused by people saying they're swayed by dya's posting today, it honestly seems almost exactly how they tend wolf ime? Little breadth to their reads, hyper-focused on finding one person to go back and forth with. I don't think they are villagy at all.
    poor GH/Logic chopped back to back when it was Dya from the beginning
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    benneh, i checked and it’s more like how i remember it

    visor voted logic early then backed off pretty hard but then later in the day said this again:
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    Logics posts on the last page are still bad lmao

    I'll be back around EOD but won't be there for it obv
    but then he pushed murska instead


    tbh i do wonder if visor would’ve taken the opportunity of gh town reading logic to not even make this post if they’re w/w but he also isn’t dumb so i don’t really get why he wouldn’t follow through and just try to kill logic when he was extremely killable

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    unrelated but this post right above that one seems bad
    Quote Originally Posted by Visor View Post
    I have had the same thought process about wisdoms posts.... And misread them like 3 games in a row lol

    Someone else can figure them out lol
    i’m not sure it’s really like visor to not try to read someone?

    but tbh it’s really just the toan, wolfy use of double “lol”

    this is (hopefully) gonna be the dumbest read i make this game

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