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    Logic push on me is bad but tbf I did ask for a push.

    I am looking. What I'm seeing is a lot of meta reads, which I (a) cannot evaluate for veracity and (b)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanta Black View Post
    Logic push on me is bad but tbf I did ask for a push.

    I am looking. What I'm seeing is a lot of meta reads, which I (a) cannot evaluate for veracity and (b)
    you make a valid argument here especially with point b
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanta Black View Post
    Logic push on me is bad but tbf I did ask for a push.

    I am looking. What I'm seeing is a lot of meta reads, which I (a) cannot evaluate for veracity and (b)
    (b) I am not gonna do research atp to look up prior games and it doesn't sound like all those games were here anyway. Case in point, it seems like Arctic, like me, just signed up, yet a lot of you seem to have played with Arctic before.

    I look at the game in front of me, with all these "oh this isn'tl their usual blah blah" that doesn't help me. Yet. It is still D1 and the last time I bragged about my D1 proficiency in scum finding I jinxed it.

    (c) I shoudl never post on mobile while walking my dog. (9560 steps, go me)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanta Black View Post
    Logic push on me is bad but tbf I did ask for a push.

    I am looking. What I'm seeing is a lot of meta reads, which I (a) cannot evaluate for veracity and (b)
    also kidding aside, cmon now, you've been playing for a year at minimum right? meta ain't the only tool in the box here

    who's got good tone? whose arguments look to you? has anybody made solid points that resonate with you? has anybody slipped under the radar?
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
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    I actually pretty much ignore meta, as far as I can. It's kind of a tiebreaker/last resort thing for me. But what I'm saying here is that it's very hard for me to evaluate a post that says "Syn is playing differently this game, must be wolf" and to me that makes whoever said it look more wolfy to me than, for instance, Syn. This is only an example.

    The reason the votecount is important is that I look at that and try to case who made bad votes (or what I think are bad votes). The workaround is going back through the thread and looking for the votes, which I'm doing,, but it's slow.

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    As far as who has sliipped under the radar, I see that Hally has made a lot of posts. But I don't remember any of Hally's points. Those posts just kind of disappeared for me.

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    Gonna evaluate players based on their avatars, lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vanta Black View Post
    I actually pretty much ignore meta, as far as I can. It's kind of a tiebreaker/last resort thing for me. But what I'm saying here is that it's very hard for me to evaluate a post that says "Syn is playing differently this game, must be wolf" and to me that makes whoever said it look more wolfy to me than, for instance, Syn. This is only an example.

    The reason the votecount is important is that I look at that and try to case who made bad votes (or what I think are bad votes). The workaround is going back through the thread and looking for the votes, which I'm doing,, but it's slow.
    I understand. Meta is not your thing. That is fine. I am not knocking you for this. Your connection to much of the playerbase is more tenuous than most people's here, if not everybody's. This is perfectly reasonable and I do not fault you for eschewing meta, both in this game specifically under these exact conditions as well as in general.

    But please give me something to work with in terms of evaluating you. There have been 550+ posts in this thread so far and while most of them are admittedly garbage (especially mine ) there are still non-meta-related insights to glean from them.
    "I'm going to die anyway, and therefore have nothing more to do except deliberately annoy Lemur." -Orb, in the chat
    "Lemur. Even if he's innocent, he's a pain; so kill him." -Ignoramus
    "I'm going to need to collect all of the rants about the guilty lemur, and put them in a pretty box with ponies and pink bows. Then I'm going to sprinkle sparkly magic dust on the box, and kiss it." -Lemur
    Mafia: Promoting peace and love since June 2006

    Quote Originally Posted by TosaInu
    At times I read back my own posts [...]. It's not always clear at first glance.


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