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[nebjiamn]

i don’t really want to keep talking about logic because i feel like this horse got beaten to death last day and resulted in some unfun vibes but i can’t really get over how he posted at zack last day esp with zack dead now

it just seems like he is a wolf who wanted to buy time limply wolf reading his main pusher until he can NK them lol. like, he had zack as wolf for wolf reading him when zack was, imo, clearly the most obvious villager in the game? and i don’t really think it was close at all. and like i get that villagers omgus, but how he went about it just seems wolfy. zero attempt to make any read on zack outside of the push on him, zero consideration for why w!zack would go balls to the wall trying to get him D1’d and make himself look bad being incredibly wrong about someone he’s expected to read well, zero attempt to engage with zack about anything, zero attempt to engage with others about zack, etc

like, think of it this way - if he is a villager and thinks zack is wolf, from his pov we are living in a world where everyone is hard clearing the blatant power wolf trying to run the thread and ram home an easy mislunch, but logic has none of the urgency i would expect from a villager who actually believes this to be the case. like straight up, when i read his posts about zack, i just don’t believe he actually thinks zack is a wolf lol. he just keeps limply repeating the same line “zack is wrong so he’s sus” but his read never develops at all beyond that boilerplate reasoning, it just feels like something he’s saying out of obligation almost because he thinks it would be weird not to. there’s no actual conviction or feeling behind it, which you can tell because instead of actually pushing zack and trying to convince everyone the guy we are all clearing is owning us, logic goes with a weaksauce vote on vanta (the lowest poster in the game) citing what seem like nothingburger posts but are apparently wolfy enough to him to push more than his zack read ???

outside that stuff, the rest of his posts are also just… not good imo? i dunno, i don’t really see real consideration and thought about people’s alignments in his posts. like, i don’t want to be rude but i feel like logic can do better and i just… don’t really get what he was doing last day if he’s a villager lol

i agree

my struggle is i think logic and visor are unlikely (not impossible) to be paired and i think visor is a pretty good shot to be a wolf here

[Hally]

vote: EnderWiggin

hello i continue to dislike ender, can we go back to killing him. it would be really fun and i think you would like it

but no really

most of his ISO revolves around waffling on arctic and an unexplained vote on jan as his bookends (with a promise that there's a secret reason), before hard turning into a vote on me and saying he sussed me all along

i agree

my struggle is i think logic and visor are unlikely (not impossible) to be paired and i think visor is a pretty good shot to be a wolf here

i don’t really get why them being w/w is unlikely?

visor barely pushed logic last day then close to EoD when logic was the counter to syn visor tried to make murska a thing instead of just trying to kill logic. doesn’t that kinda spew logic as wolf?

also logic is still basically ignoring visor despite visor not being villagery at all when he basically treated visor like an outed wolf for misreading him in the town game zack quoted

like, am i missing something or should v!logic not basically always think visor is a wolf here? idgi lol

[nebjiamn]

i don’t really get why them being w/w is unlikely?

visor barely pushed logic last day then close to EoD when logic was the counter to syn visor tried to make murska a thing instead of just trying to kill logic. doesn’t that kinda spew logic as wolf?

also logic is still basically ignoring visor despite visor not being villagery at all when he basically treated visor like an outed wolf for misreading him in the town game zack quoted

like, am i missing something or should v!logic not basically always think visor is a wolf here? idgi lol

good point

[nebjiamn]

i don’t really get why them being w/w is unlikely?

visor barely pushed logic last day then close to EoD when logic was the counter to syn visor tried to make murska a thing instead of just trying to kill logic. doesn’t that kinda spew logic as wolf?

also logic is still basically ignoring visor despite visor not being villagery at all when he basically treated visor like an outed wolf for misreading him in the town game zack quoted

like, am i missing something or should v!logic not basically always think visor is a wolf here? idgi lol

this is a good point but visor also already talked about pulling back on the logic read prior to that i think

i don't think it spews logic wolf because we cant preflip visor (as much as id love to)

another reason im unpairing them a bit is cause then i have the team as logic/syn/gh/visor and like what was that team doing (this is me saying i think gh is still linked to logic more than visor is but it'd be weird if its all 3 of them)

idk i don't really disagree with you i guess but it just feels too easy (maybe easy is good ig)