17er Saints and Martyrs

[Hally]

open question to everyone: what are gh’s reads right now? does anyone know?

because i asked myself this question and i literally could not come up with anything without checking, and after rereading all his posts today just now i still have zero clue

contrast to how everyone else has opened this day with a lot of solving energy (particularly given we have a wolf flip to solve off of!) and like… it’s not a good look

[Logic]

To be NKed? Me, Arctic

I don't know if we are ever going to agree on this, but I think I am the single most-likely mis-lim in the game. Arctic and you are not universally scumread like I currently am. So I don't get why you think scum would ever decide to try and resolve the d1 wagons before they kill either of you two.

[GeneralHankerchief]

open question to everyone: what are gh’s reads right now? does anyone know?

because i asked myself this question and i literally could not come up with anything without checking, and after rereading all his posts today just now i still have zero clue

contrast to how everyone else has opened this day with a lot of solving energy (particularly given we have a wolf flip to solve off of!) and like… it’s not a good look

I don't have any lol

guilty as charged!

[Logic]

open question to everyone: what are gh’s reads right now? does anyone know?

because i asked myself this question and i literally could not come up with anything without checking, and after rereading all his posts today just now i still have zero clue

contrast to how everyone else has opened this day with a lot of solving energy (particularly given we have a wolf flip to solve off of!) and like… it’s not a good look

From memory alone: he's got a townread on me, a scumread of visor, I think, and has pocketed a secret read on (dya?)
But I cannot recall any current reads.

[Logic]

I don't have any lol

guilty as charged!

I still expect a debrief on Traitors before the 3-day weekend is out. Even if it's only one episode.
:p

[Logic]

To be NKed? Me, Arctic

Additional thought on this; Vanta is saying that he thinks the thread finds himself and arctic the most scummy. Over visor and me.

I don't know if I believe that

[Vanta Black]

Have just slammed dog's ear in patio door and must atone by taking her for her favorite walk but I will be back.

Speaking of atoning.

...

While I don’t know that dyachei is wrong I wasn’t wild about the way they kept shading Arctic without putting a vote down, but then they finally did.

So let’s see here, who will it be?

....

Edited for pronoun fail. Sorry, I suck. Won't happen again. Probably, hopefully.

[Vanta Black]

I don't know if we are ever going to agree on this, but I think I am the single most-likely mis-lim in the game. Arctic and you are not universally scumread like I currently am. So I don't get why you think scum would ever decide to try and resolve the d1 wagons before they kill either of you two.

I didn't think you were very likely because (a) I think you are scum and (b) you had a lot of vote pressure and if town looked like a possible mizzle.

[Vanta Black]

I'm not very likely because I almost never get NKed. Arctic also had a lot of vote pressure and if town looked like a good potential mizzle.

[Logic]

@Vanta Black

WtF is a mizzle?

[Murska]

People I've seen as in "the consensus scum team"
Ender (not currently seeing it, but I also haven't seen a post of his in a while)
Me (I'm not going to list my own pros and cons)
Visor (I'm still calling him a lazy villager)

(emphasis mine)

Really? Maybe yesterday, but at this point?

[Logic]

I figured out what a mizzle is. Smh

But, Please keep the following in mind: I think Vanta's latest spews arctic and myself town, should he flip red, as I think he will

[Logic]

(emphasis mine)

Really? Maybe yesterday, but at this point?

Yes? Your question being?
Is it "why do I think people are scumreading ender?" Because I never saw it.

[Hally]

tbh i would be kinda surprised if arctic is a wolf just from his posts today (and i still think his EoD is villagery for him)

i also don’t really think dya is a wolf? i know zack wolf read them and i don’t really have a concrete reason to town read them but i’m not really feeling it tbh

think you two should probably try looking elsewhere but go with god

[Murska]

The question is, do you believe that people are scumreading Ender today, after Syn's flip? Because I don't, and nothing I've read on d2 points to that conclusion, so if you do I'm curious what thread you've been reading.

[Arctic]

open question to everyone: what are gh’s reads right now? does anyone know?

because i asked myself this question and i literally could not come up with anything without checking, and after rereading all his posts today just now i still have zero clue

contrast to how everyone else has opened this day with a lot of solving energy (particularly given we have a wolf flip to solve off of!) and like… it’s not a good look

yea i made a point of this in my big post it's not at all obvious who he thinks is mafia and i feel like he should have some polarizing thoughts if the way he was leaning is on logic/visor being v but there isn't really anything

I don't have any lol

guilty as charged!

wtf if you're lurking why didnt u answer my ping

wait i just realized the ping failed because when you made your username you didn't know how to spell handkerchief
unfortunate

tbh i would be kinda surprised if arctic is a wolf just from his posts today (and i still think his EoD is villagery for him)

i also don’t really think dya is a wolf? i know zack wolf read them and i don’t really have a concrete reason to town read them but i’m not really feeling it tbh

think you two should probably try looking elsewhere but go with god

i am looking elsewhere lol, i'm not trying to murder them am i
i'm still not really enthused by their posts but i don't really know what i'm supposed to do about that given well *gestures towards what happened yesterday*
that said beyond sod1 posting i don't really have much of a reason to wolfread them either

[Arctic]

i love the term mizzle wow look at us 3 potential mizzles all in the thread right now

ngl i keep forgetting why i townread vanta but then they come back to the thread post something and i townread them again

[Logic]

The question is, do you believe that people are scumreading Ender today, after Syn's flip? Because I don't, and nothing I've read on d2 points to that conclusion, so if you do I'm curious what thread you've been reading.

I don't think I've seen anyone calling ender town today. And the last time I remember ender's name being brought up was as a scumread.

[Logic]

tbh i would be kinda surprised if arctic is a wolf just from his posts today (and i still think his EoD is villagery for him)

i also don’t really think dya is a wolf? i know zack wolf read them and i don’t really have a concrete reason to town read them but i’m not really feeling it tbh

think you two should probably try looking elsewhere but go with god

I'm actually kinda weirded out by Arctic's p#946 and p#947.

This is the first time I've actually gotten a wolf vibe from him.

[Wisdom]

how are we feeling about this re: ender?

unrelated but this post right above that one seems bad

i’m not sure it’s really like visor to not try to read someone?

but tbh it’s really just the toan, wolfy use of double “lol”

this is (hopefully) gonna be the dumbest read i make this game

open question to everyone: what are gh’s reads right now? does anyone know?

because i asked myself this question and i literally could not come up with anything without checking, and after rereading all his posts today just now i still have zero clue

contrast to how everyone else has opened this day with a lot of solving energy (particularly given we have a wolf flip to solve off of!) and like… it’s not a good look

Can anyone confirm if Hally usually talks to the void like this? I haven't played with them in a good while but it's wolf indicative in my book (gut says they're town though).

[ladd]

Zack is prob calling me dumb from dvc but i kinda think logic is a villager lol

Def feel like he has another gear he can reach to clear himself but i dunno his posting just feels real at points to me

Artic/hally saying a lot of good stuff

I re read visor iso and tbh id be shocked if he is a villager, it has nothing to do with activity/engagement thats clearly nai for him

He just positioned himself like a wolf and after syn flip/murska claim the cards just didnt fall his way

C'est la vie

[ladd]

Some other stuff

Gh/gemma not w/w feels like it could become relavant

Dya/gh prob not w/w either

Gemma/ender i also have as not aligned iirc



Prob gonna need to re read jan at some point cause he def would the hell out of syn. He felt villagery to me d1 so i kinda wrote him off but maybe he is worth a re read for later days (he is probably a villager tho)

Syn villaread on wisdom seems kinda spewy and i v read wisdom fairly strongly anyway

[ladd]

Some other stuff

Gh/gemma not w/w feels like it could become relavant

Dya/gh prob not w/w either

Gemma/ender i also have as not aligned iirc



Prob gonna need to re read jan at some point cause he def would the hell out of syn. He felt villagery to me d1 so i kinda wrote him off but maybe he is worth a re read for later days (he is probably a villager tho)

Syn villaread on wisdom seems kinda spewy and i v read wisdom fairly strongly anyway

Buss the hell out of*


To not waste a post, benneh is probabky a good gui. Wouldnt be the 1st time he has fooled but he had some really villagery posts

[ladd]

Vote: Syn

did seriously entertain voting Logic just for clarity and forcing the issue since I know this is gonna be a thing basically until he flips

This was 1 of the post that i was talking about wrt gh

It ferls like it was written from the perspective of a wolf saying something they think is villagery rather than a real thought cause i dont think gh would actually grnuiny consider lunching logic there? Idk it spooked me when i read it at eod

[Wisdom]

Kinda wanna sheep Ladd, feels like I'm agreeing a lot there today.

[Ender Logic Rask Ladd Muska] are 5 players I feel confident calling town.

Lean v on [Dya Hally GH].

[Logic]

Kinda wanna sheep Ladd, feels like I'm agreeing a lot there today.

[Ender Logic Rask Ladd Muska] are 5 players I feel confident calling town.

Lean v on [Dya Hally GH].

Those are 8 names I didn't think to see in a single post alone.

Disagree re: dya. I have the same confidence as you re: GH, and probably the same tier for Hally.

Rask is in a blind spot for me, so I do wanna know what makes him so confident for you.

The remainder of your top 4 are cromulent.

But I initially responded because I got TMI alarms for this post of yours, wisdom.

[Hally]

Zack is prob calling me dumb from dvc but i kinda think logic is a villager lol

Def feel like he has another gear he can reach to clear himself but i dunno his posting just feels real at points to me

Artic/hally saying a lot of good stuff

I re read visor iso and tbh id be shocked if he is a villager, it has nothing to do with activity/engagement thats clearly nai for him

He just positioned himself like a wolf and after syn flip/murska claim the cards just didnt fall his way

C'est la vie

who are the last two assuming visor is w and logic is v?

2 in gemma/gh/vanta/ender?

i’m not really seeing anyone else as a wolf tbh

i guess if logic v/visor w it can be dya? but i kinda doubt it

just trying to see if there’s actually worlds that make sense without logic. tbh he has some posts today that give me some pause but then others that are just so ????

[Hally]

Those are 8 names I didn't think to see in a single post alone.

Disagree re: dya. I have the same confidence as you re: GH, and probably the same tier for Hally.

Rask is in a blind spot for me, so I do wanna know what makes him so confident for you.

The remainder of your top 4 are cromulent.

But I initially responded because I got TMI alarms for this post of yours, wisdom.

bruh rask hard pushed syn the entirety of last day

he is never a wolf

[ladd]

who are the last two assuming visor is w and logic is v?

2 in gemma/gh/vanta/ender?

i’m not really seeing anyone else as a wolf tbh

i guess if logic v/visor w it can be dya? but i kinda doubt it

just trying to see if there’s actually worlds that make sense without logic. tbh he has some posts today that give me some pause but then others that are just so ????

Logic content mostly makes no sense but right or wrong i am reading him on toan lol

Those would be the 1st 4 id look at ya but id also just take it 1 step at the time; wouldnt really be shocked if there is 1 deeper wolf but i am in no hurry to catch them

[EnderWiggin]

(emphasis mine)

Really? Maybe yesterday, but at this point?

Hello. Day start is 1am. It's now 9am and I had to wake up and get to work.

Unless I'm staying up bloody late, you probably won't see me for a good 8-9 hours after day start.

I'm much more likely to be around for EOD because that just means I'm awake 12-1 which... isn't exactly usual but also not the craziest thing.

Probably the same reason I haven't seen Visor yet in this catchup.