17er Saints and Martyrs

[EnderWiggin]

i love how you called me out for the self-meta re: not bussing in a way that gets me zero cred and you're doing the exact same thing here lol

why do you even wolfread me? idgi. you've pointed out the thing about self-meta and the post where i spoke about how the nightkill doesn't make it any more or less likely that syn was bussed, and neither of these things are actually wolfy if you think about them for more than 5 seconds

like i would normally not bother making posts like this but one of the places i keep fucking up in my reads is assuming that the people treating my slot awfully are just villagers sucking so i don't really engage with scumreads on me other than defending myself, so i'm trying to figure out whether you're just throwing shit around and it certainly does feel like that, and this is worsened by the fact i have no idea what your actual worldview is rn, so if you could drop a full readlist that would be helpful too

Your Self-meta post was you posting it defensively using it against suspicion.
Mine was only elaborated on because Ladd asked.

If you're a villager, then I absolutely buy that you can see things about your own play which should be clearing. But the point is that it's... not a defense. Mine isn't either. If people started voting me I wouldn't be pointing it as a reason people shouldn't. Neither if people sussed me.

"You can't self-meta" isn't my point. "Self-meta isn't a defense" is.

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Your actions around the wolf kill (Specifically around trying to soft push back against it being an indication that wolves probably bussed)
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I still have sus on you for game start posting
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All I remembered of your EOD was this sequence:

ok well im fine with syn dying

ignore what i just said about the wagons if syn is a wolf

(im not coming out of this looking good either way actually lmao

OK W/E, I really hope you guys are right about this

vote: Syn

Which I just thought was weird.

I also wanted to start the day with poking outside the current central POE because I don't think it has all the wolves, and it didn't need my help. (I was intentionally ignoring Visor stuff until after he posted in a sort of "I'm not going to sus him until I see what he's got. And lots of people are already voting there and I don't want a quick day". But I didn't SAY that because I didn't want that to be the tone of thread.)

But I also found it weirdly desynced when your EOD you were like "I don't look good coming out of this." and then your SOD you were like "I shouldn't be sussed." But that was after my initial sus so it wasn't why I was there. Also it feels mildly confbiasy so I don't really care that much.