Tarot Mafia

[Sunbae]

Sup, gonna be out for most of the day (will follow on phone as time allows) but two things that popped overnight:

- sunbae is typically in wolf meta, and his readlist just seemed too consensual, kinda sorted by expected ww competence (idk how to word it but thats a feeling I got). The thought on Ender could be real but I am noy convinced rn. May be a skill issue on my side, time will tell.

Second stuff about Maple: arctic may have a point but I dont think i have seen him wolfed so I am not sure its actually valid. What gave me some ping is how their interest vanished (specifically after Bennehs post calling them a Grrr ww). Not sure I am buying such a rollercoaster in pressure strenght. (Felt like"oops, I may be drawing too much attention to myself).

Food for thought.

I WILL be around 2 hours before EOD to game.

Final words: lol gemma (u cant wr me for the love of jebus. Be real or actually case me)

My favorite part of playing werewolf is making reads and having someone question how you can possibly have that read and then read another post where the someone else calls your reads too consensual.

[Sunbae]

That wasn't sarcasm btw, it's genuinely one of the funnest parts of werewolf

[Sunbae]

Rask can you order my reads from most to least consensus:

Neb town
Dya obvious villager
Maple town (though pondering more I admit now)
Knights light towny
Insomnia towny
Jan wolfy
Ender wolfy
Rask wolfy

[Jan]

also someone asked me why im sketch on ender and its because there were multiple posts of theirs that i thought "this is how i would post about insertgoodplayerthatrandedvillager here if i were a wolf against them".





both of those made me hmph in the way where its like tiptoeing around someone

this is your post. had to look it up.

I don't disagree with your take.
enders takes are things I can simply nod along and fakeable as wolf.

both examples here are just expert fence sitting tbh.
I tend to have very similar thoughts early on a lot of times. it is why I didn't bother placing sheep or knights in my early list for example.

I can see your reason. And I am curious how ender evolves when he comes back.
I don't think it is damning in any way. to me it is just something that a wolf could easily fake, but a villager might post as well.

[Sunbae]

Also, do you think it means anything that the vast majority of my reads are focused on the people I have the most experience with?

[Sunbae]

this is your post. had to look it up.

I don't disagree with your take.
enders takes are things I can simply nod along and fakeable as wolf.

both examples here are just expert fence sitting tbh.
I tend to have very similar thoughts early on a lot of times. it is why I didn't bother placing sheep or knights in my early list for example.

I can see your reason. And I am curious how ender evolves when he comes back.
I don't think it is damning in any way. to me it is just something that a wolf could easily fake, but a villager might post as well.

Hmm, ok that's fair! I think that means your post wasn't directed at me at all which is fine. A nice wait and see approach works well I think too

[Sunbae]

Also, do you think it means anything that the vast majority of my reads are focused on the people I have the most experience with?

hmmm i probably should fill in some of the gaps I have in the reads list actually

[Jan]

Also, do you think it means anything that the vast majority of my reads are focused on the people I have the most experience with?

I assume ben and bop would be in your list if that was true.

[Sunbae]

slight town read to arctic

[Sunbae]

I assume ben and bop would be in your list if that was true.

ben is neb! have as a villager

bop im uncertain on at the moment

[Jan]

I assume ben and bop would be in your list if that was true.

oh wait neb is ben.

in my head it was just a lazy way to say NEwcomB. :X

[Wisdom]

I might be an idiot but I still think Sunbae's pure. I know it's dumb because it's all macro and I'm really looking for one micro reason to town read him, just anything that's slightly town indicative on a perspective level rather than tone/wim/solvyness, and I just can't.

But he's in my town lean pile anyway, he's cute, sue me.

[Visor]

Players Votes
Theknightsofneeee 3 EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov, Newcomb
Gemma 2 Ladd, Wisdom
Vanta Black 1 Gemma
EnderWiggin 1 nebjiamn
Newcomb 1 grr
Wisdom 1 sheepsaysmeep
sheepsaysmeep 1 Syn
dyachei 1 insomnia
Jan 1 Theknightsofneeee
C0balt 1 Didistetter
ColonelLubriderm 1 Vanta Black

i don't have my new tallier on this comp, so give me a bit to get it formatted and stuff but this should be the tally

remember that if the vote does not start with vote:

i will not see it nor count it!

[Visor]

Players Votes

Theknightsofneeee 3 (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov, Newcomb)
Gemma 2 (Ladd, Wisdom)
Vanta Black 1 (Gemma)
EnderWiggin 1 (nebjiamn)
Newcomb 1 (grr)
Wisdom 1 (sheepsaysmeep)
sheepsaysmeep 1 (Syn)
dyachei 1 (insomnia)
Jan 1 (Theknightsofneeee)
C0balt 1 (Didistetter)
ColonelLubriderm 1 (Vanta Black)



it'll do for now!

lmk if you also want me to add post numbers for each vote fwiw, though havent looked into how hard it would be to link em

[insomnia]

wasn't gemma meant to be obvious villager by now or is that a bad view to hold?

it feels like they're really distant in poking at stuff and the times i've read them it was incredibly easy to villa read them off their pushes. it's been about 35h since SoD and nothing really spicy from them but just placing really safe votes and that doesn't feel like their style at all. i woulda expected them to swing at a hard hitter thus far, but let me know if im wrong

[Gemma]

wasn't gemma meant to be obvious villager by now or is that a bad view to hold?

it feels like they're really distant in poking at stuff and the times i've read them it was incredibly easy to villa read them off their pushes. it's been about 35h since SoD and nothing really spicy from them but just placing really safe votes and that doesn't feel like their style at all. i woulda expected them to swing at a hard hitter thus far, but let me know if im wrong

wolfy
@Visor sheep is voting me

[Gemma]

Vote: insomnia

[insomnia]

alright, i tried re-reading but i really can't be bothered. d1 is not my strong suit and especially not in these types of playerlists where im sure i won't have much of an influence on d1 anyway and it's better to let things flow as it is

i will say the reads that i feel fine with for now are

v
stett
grr

probably v
raskolnikov
maple

yolo v
knightsofneeee

the way i read the game rn in terms of wolfreads is prob the worst in terms of playing d1. kinda lost interest because of that. the lunch will probably be some low poster cuz we don't want to lunch the people putting in effort this early and because of this being a COVETED get together of players, so i'll try harder d2. i might come back for EoD if im awake

[insomnia]

wolfy
@Visor sheep is voting me

why?

in the mash i remember you pushing high profile players with much more ease and a ton of villageriness. in here you have ~nothing to say about hard hitters despite actively choosing not to get involved. i'd expect someone doing that to at least have something spicier to say and especially you

you are def not playing typical (at least from my viewing of your mash play and a few normals here), i haven't decided if you're a wolf or not for it, but i don't feel comfortable letting you off the hook if you won't provide some cool insight given you aren't getting involved. shouldn't that make it real easy to see you villaging?

just saying

what do you think about ladd voting you?

[ladd]

alright, i tried re-reading but i really can't be bothered. d1 is not my strong suit and especially not in these types of playerlists where im sure i won't have much of an influence on d1 anyway and it's better to let things flow as it is

i will say the reads that i feel fine with for now are

v
stett
grr

probably v
raskolnikov
maple

yolo v
knightsofneeee

the way i read the game rn in terms of wolfreads is prob the worst in terms of playing d1. kinda lost interest because of that. the lunch will probably be some low poster cuz we don't want to lunch the people putting in effort this early and because of this being a COVETED get together of players, so i'll try harder d2. i might come back for EoD if im awake

I get not having me as a villager but i feel newcomb should be obvious atp?

I think it'd make the game easier for you to sort if you consider newcomb v, just saying this cause i think you are prob a villager who is tinfoiling nefarious me/newcomb wolf worlds in his mind that wont come true

Hope it helps

[dyachei]

@didistetter my read on Jan is a vibe read first and foremost and he's not doing some things i associate with his wolf game. He memes as both alignments but tends to do it more as a wolf than as a villager. I can't really explain my read beyond that.

[dyachei]

I get not having me as a villager but i feel newcomb should be obvious atp?

I think it'd make the game easier for you to sort if you consider newcomb v, just saying this cause i think you are prob a villager who is tinfoiling nefarious me/newcomb wolf worlds in his mind that wont come true

Hope it helps

idt newcomb is obvious atp. Newcomb is like...slightly villa for me right now but I'm not willing to commit

[Gemma]

why?

in the mash i remember you pushing high profile players with much more ease and a ton of villageriness. in here you have ~nothing to say about hard hitters despite actively choosing not to get involved. i'd expect someone doing that to at least have something spicier to say and especially you

you are def not playing typical (at least from my viewing of your mash play and a few normals here), i haven't decided if you're a wolf or not for it, but i don't feel comfortable letting you off the hook if you won't provide some cool insight given you aren't getting involved. shouldn't that make it real easy to see you villaging?

just saying

what do you think about ladd voting you?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...rchid=20690838

can u quote the post where i pushed ppl

and "ladd prob wolfing" rly doesn't count

man what is people's obsession with status in mafia

high profile this elite omegabrain that like omg

we're all just weird nerds typing random poopies into a little box for the memes

if u haven't decided i'm a wolf then don't shade me from the sidelines (that's why ur post is wolfy)

ladd's vote on me is silly and he'll presumably switch off at some point or not idc about it

[insomnia]

I get not having me as a villager but i feel newcomb should be obvious atp?

I think it'd make the game easier for you to sort if you consider newcomb v, just saying this cause i think you are prob a villager who is tinfoiling nefarious me/newcomb wolf worlds in his mind that wont come true

Hope it helps

nah, idt you are w/w. at most i think it's just 1 there and i'd lean you over newcomb anyway. newcomb got better

i just think a lot of the wolves are the people we'd never consider voting d1, feels like that type of game to me, but i genuinely don't have an interest figuring out who that might be. i just know i didn't wanna die and usually when i do that i lose accuracy and interest to solve the game cuz i need to re-read

[Visor]

Players Votes

Gemma 3 (Ladd, sheepsaysmeep, Wisdom)
Theknightsofneeee 3 (EnderWiggin, Raskolnikov, Newcomb)
insomnia 1 (Gemma)
dyachei 1 (insomnia)
Jan 1 (Theknightsofneeee)
C0balt 1 (Didistetter)
ColonelLubriderm 1 (Vanta Black)
sheepsaysmeep 1 (Syn)
EnderWiggin 1 (nebjiamn)
Newcomb 1 (grr)



thx gemma, fixed

[insomnia]

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...rchid=20690838

can u quote the post where i pushed ppl

and "ladd prob wolfing" rly doesn't count

man what is people's obsession with status in mafia

high profile this elite omegabrain that like omg

we're all just weird nerds typing random poopies into a little box for the memes

if u haven't decided i'm a wolf then don't shade me from the sidelines (that's why ur post is wolfy)

ladd's vote on me is silly and he'll presumably switch off at some point or not idc about it

why is it silly? do you think you've been villagery?

there's no thing with status. i've just seen you being villagery by way of pushing typical slots like that. in here you feel immensely uninspired and i dont get why

and yes, im shading you cuz, again, it's been 36h, you didn't give us much and your votes are real consensus and / or safe, so i'd like to hear more. im fine giving people time to do their thing obviously, but when you play it this safe in addition to not putting your thoughts in the thread it looks wolfy, considering i usually tell pretty easily when you're v (at least from skimming on this site)

that's my process on you /shrug

[insomnia]

im not quoting anything, lol. nobody cares about that

[Gemma]

idc about what visor did in another game lol i'm a) not visor b) not trying to get vanta yeeted

also that was vanta's first game here iirc and at that point they looked like an easy misyeet whereas now they're a slot that can easily clear themselves which invites completely different interactions

at what point in this game do i look like someone who is going to be a deciding factor in a yeet such that i would think doing absolutely nothing other than voting someone would lead to their receiving pressure or votes and what about a naked vote and ping at vanta ever comes across as meaningfully pushing the slot idk what angle u think i would even be playing there as a wolf

@insomnia

i'll try to have some less safe reads in the future ty for the feedback

[Gemma]

im not quoting anything, lol. nobody cares about that

u seem to care quite a bit

[insomnia]

@insomnia

i'll try to have some less safe reads in the future ty for the feedback

i feel like you're being a bit prickly with me for no reason. i've elaborated with numerous points why im not comfortable giving you space anymore. do you feel like that's wrong / attacking you or what?

you can be villagery by posting thoughts and that's all i asked

im closing the thread