Tarot Mafia

[EnderWiggin]

Never fear, Ender is here.

I'mma be honest bruvs. 17 pages to catch up, idk if I'll get through em all before I collapse to sleep.

But here I go.

[EnderWiggin]

Yes, I like seeing people post about my meta because it makes me feel noticed and important.

Carry on.

Okay unironically Cobalt spot-responding mostly to comments about them is rand!wolf for em

[EnderWiggin]

now this I don't like as much

the second line feels like something you just throw in to add the appearance of depth without there being any real consideration

As I'm typing this though I'm recognizing that there's perhaps a bit of "townreading someone who townreads you is such a goober thing to do off the bat" that i'm reflexively doing the opposite to prove to myself i'm not a chump

gonna let this one marinate

[nebjiamn]

I also kinda was sus of Insomnia early on the pages but Page 6 Insomnia hits different.

Even if I disagree with the reads, I kinda like the posts.

I like Jan rn.

My vote on them is a joke until I decide to change to someone else.

I got bored of joke-voting

Vote: Knights of Neeeee

I feel like Newcomb gets voted pretty easily when he hasn't ~done much. I helped vote em out last game we played when I was wolf and they were town on D1. (Though it was a wild EOD to be fair.)

Can you talk to me about why Newcomb is there in your sus list? (To be clear I very much think Newcomb has done nothing I'd consider reading them on yet.)

@Jan its nothing mega deep, just these posts in particular pinged me

emphasizing the vote on you was a joke twice/clarifying his intent just pings me a bit

the post about insom pings me for the 'kinda sus early' 'but p6 insom hits diff' when early on was mostly intro posts and it feels like somewhat of an exaggeration for something i viewed as either null or just irrelevant from insom (but ender being around to clarify which posts early he sus'd would help tbf)

the post about newcomb is just super awkward. its mostly fluff about his willingness to vote newcomb as a wolf in a game from a year ago segueing into 'why are you reading him?' with clarification that he doesnt even have a read on newcomb

i cant really explain the read beyond that. i admit its kinda meh but i don't really have much else to work on rn. his other posts in the flurry were ~fine i agree but for my money he's the wolfiest of the interesting/non-cop-out yeets on the table we're likely heading to (sheep/knights) that i think have more villa equity

[EnderWiggin]

knights did have a kind of awkward intro; whoever pointed that out, think it was rask or ender maybe, I vibe with it. didn't stick out like a sore thumb but on readback, the shoe fits for the token awkward thread entrance d1 wolf. Not a glass slipper, but at least a pair of crocs.

Talk to me about benneh; apologies if I missed it, i'm catching up and also f5'ing the thread as I do

Sheep but I think I was second? Or I don't remember someone.

But basically Sheep and me did it.

[nebjiamn]

im heading in to work and am gonna be in a data center with no outbound internet access basically all day, not sure if ill be able to make EOD

will do my best to pop in on a break if possible and make a relevant vote as needed but gona stay on ender for now

id really prefer to not go sheep if that matters to anyone

[Gemma]

i feel like you're being a bit prickly with me for no reason. i've elaborated with numerous points why im not comfortable giving you space anymore. do you feel like that's wrong / attacking you or what?

you can be villagery by posting thoughts and that's all i asked

im closing the thread

not prickly just some friendly sass

i dont mind what u do wrt giving me space or not, its not going to affect how i post

feel free to ask me about a post or something specific and i'll probably humor you

but saying repeatedly that my posts dont match some imaginary gemma that you havbe in ur head and talking about a consensus or whatnot donest really give me anything to converse with, my reads are my reads and saying they're safe like ive intentioned out to commit sins is ??? and idek what consensus is aorn or what u think it is so like there are wild leagues between us that require unpoacking and deconstructing before we can begin to talk which is why im just shrugging

[Gemma]

Okay unironically Cobalt spot-responding mostly to comments about them is rand!wolf for em

have u 2 been hanging out irl

unironically i mean

[EnderWiggin]

The amount of confusion Sunbae caused with the Stett ID lie is cracking me up.

Top quality content.

[EnderWiggin]

have u 2 been hanging out irl

unironically i mean

Nope.

[EnderWiggin]

tier 3 is lame i wanna be like. tier1+ or wolfread. tier 3 is kinda like where people tolerate ur existence but kinda keep taking potshots at you and you already know you're never gonna be nightkilled and it's so cringe.

We should band together and seize the means of production voting, so that we too might be graced with the bliss of N1.

[dyachei]

vote: enderwiggin

I like insom better now in his responses to gemma

[Gemma]

Nope.

oh wait it was syn who said unironically before not you

nvm

[EnderWiggin]

fry.gif in enders general directi

"Shut up and take my money"? How did you know I needed money?

(I joke but I have the feeling this is the start of the current anti-Ender sentiment I'm observing around catching up lmao.)

[Gemma]

vote: enderwiggin

I like insom better now in his responses to gemma

care to elaborate

[dyachei]

care to elaborate

not really no

[EnderWiggin]

Dya tackling Newcomb digging into their reasoning is ~more towny of em.

Disclaimer being that I have historically had a bad rate of reading Dya. But I like it.

[ladd]

Okay unironically Cobalt spot-responding mostly to comments about them is rand!wolf for em

Is this read based on meta?

Cobalt is a slot I am interested in (prolly not today since they gave cover and i am ok with respecting that for 1 day)

[EnderWiggin]

also someone asked me why im sketch on ender and its because there were multiple posts of theirs that i thought "this is how i would post about insertgoodplayerthatrandedvillager here if i were a wolf against them".





both of those made me hmph in the way where its like tiptoeing around someone

I'm gonna ask you to cast your mind back to the last time you were town and I was wolf and I voted out Newcomb D1.

I give 0 shits about tiptoeing around good players.

(I once, famously, kept Pizza alive til F4 despite everyone townreading him. I lost that, but hell was it fun.)

This feels ~really bland of a read on me from Sunbae, and I can't help but feel like it comes from the fact that Ladd proved that wolves can push me for free because people don't generally find me super towny.

I'll chew on this a bit more before I commit to it. Because this is absolutely OMGUS range. But bleh.

[EnderWiggin]

Is this read based on meta?

Cobalt is a slot I am interested in (prolly not today since they gave cover and i am ok with respecting that for 1 day)

Yes. The meta is like a year old so I can't guarantee it holds up but I played a bunch with Cobalt and saw the innards of their Wolf Play when I was their Partner during Champs.

[EnderWiggin]

yesssssssssssss, that page 6 post pinged me too

i was too lazy to do the math on what page 6 would be since i'm on 40 or 35 or 62 posts per page or whatever, but my estimate was he was sussing inso earlier for his like, ~4 intro posts that were pretty ~whatever?

Man, it's such a pity I have already a voiced scumread based on 4 posts at SOD. I surely couldn't have a SECOND ONE hidden in my coat!

[ColonelLubriderm]

vote: ColonelLubriderm

I'll bet you want a reason for this vote. Vibes thing. Earlier when I wasn't at a keyboard I read a little on mobile (which is dire) and saw some posts that pinged me, and I will look for them.

Also someone somewhere in this thread asked people with townread on Jan to explain that tr. It's early but I thought the tarot readings were pretty relaxed and town-leaning. I have since seen some players say Jan is easily capable of faking that relaxed vibe and I guess I have to believe them, and also it's probably a dumb reason to tr someone. But there it is. (I have played 1 game with Jan, which is 1 more than I have played with most of you here.)

on initial impressions, i feel like a wolf would come up for a better fake reason for jan than tarot cards. Though as i write these two sentences my initial impressions have waned a bit

[ladd]

Ok thx for the insight, seems like a potentially cool read.

Maybe i am a dummie but i dont like what gemma posted like couple of pages.

I still find the whole ordeal with vanta artificial and calling them newbtown after they made like 2 posts borders on leveraging tmi to get a result out of their vote

Most of their posts being answer to other people posting and latching onto that also seems a bit wolfy, idk i dont really see much in the way of original thoughts

I also have trouble following what the want to do like maple is (the only name) in their die section of their reads list but idt thry ever pushed them or talked about them and instead they went after insomnia for micro stuff (imo)



The older i get the more i hate pushing people (especially when i am not uber confident) lol but someome has to do the dirty work

[EnderWiggin]

Okay so... summary I understand is:

Sunbae sussed me for being "gunshy" effectively around "strong players". Of which I think half the player list for me could be assigned the same note.

Which is silly because the players who have a noted good record reading me in any manner aren't really in this game in the first place, and I've shown no signs of tiptoeing around the current players in previous wolf games. (As a whole I tend to consider my wolf game to be "refuge in audacity", though absolutely it has its holes.)

Benneh then "Yasss queeeeeen"s his way into a vote. Which is the second thing that twinges my omgus senses.

Dya's follow on and vote is actually probably very Villa of them. We have traditionally had some very contentious reading of each other. Dya can confirm I'm sure.

I'm not gonna lie kinda frustrated because I seem to end up on the table on D1 no matter what I try to change up if I don't have time to threadcamp, but nyeh.

Anyway, I'm gonna fish out the things I found sus that I wanna talk about outside me being a prickly bastard and disliking people sussing me.

[EnderWiggin]

I skimmed/looked for my own name on catchup so i haven't fully processed the thread tbqh

my general thoughts are that i still feel pretty good about my earlier villa reads, i think benneh's hangup on wisdom talking about your first post feels like villa!benneh, I think sheep had a villagery post that you quoted which i need to reread and process my feelings on, i liked arctic's entrance a lot, think newcomb is significantly more villagery now, and I hate ladd's wolf read on me because it feels not very fleshed out, and like he's just wolf reading me after general thread perception on me soured and he's just trying to add more pressure, so I think of the people pushing me he is currently most likely to be a wolf.

something about enderwiggen pinged me but tbh i don't remember what it was and i've never played with them so i'll probably jsut let that go

This is probably somewhat confbias of me.

But the "Sus on Sheep" translating now to a "Sus on Ender, but idk why" is just a straight up omgus radar for the people championing his wagon. Except he doesn't say that. He vaguely gestures at the edge of the stage like an assistant will come in with a power point presentation anyyyyy minute now...

anyyyy

minuuuuute

nooooow

[EnderWiggin]

And I'm so self-centred I missed the Ladd part in the middle there as well lmao

[EnderWiggin]

Wisdom is probably the top of my "If pressed I'd lean them town but I'm leery of them pocketing me with how hard they're waving their hands and saying I'm town but not really doing much to try and dissuade the people pushing me."

Jan, at least, has actively tried to disagree with the wagon on me. Which does make me townread them more and I absolutely could be a sucker for it but I'm here and I'll stick it for now.

Also sheep is still town.

I debated it last night, slept on it, came back to thread and I just... think their early and mid game thought process reads true to me.

I'm pretty much not gonna accept a wagon on them until at least D3 and even then I'd do a reread first and might come back to defending em.

Sheep is pretty much the top of my town list rn.

[EnderWiggin]

I've probably missed a bunch of people to make reads on. I'm gonna go skim and live for a little bit. Feel free to ask questions oh ye denizens of the thread.

[theknightsofneeee]

This is probably somewhat confbias of me.

But the "Sus on Sheep" translating now to a "Sus on Ender, but idk why" is just a straight up omgus radar for the people championing his wagon. Except he doesn't say that. He vaguely gestures at the edge of the stage like an assistant will come in with a power point presentation anyyyyy minute now...

anyyyy

minuuuuute

nooooow

??? Lmao

I literally said I was letting it go

Can’t please some people I swear

[EnderWiggin]

??? Lmao

I literally said I was letting it go

Can’t please some people I swear

Okay. You know what. If you're gonna be around for a bit I'll engage in you in good faith.

Ladd you said was most sus of people pushing you.
Jan is the one you are pushing rn and have sussed on.

Are those the top two wolfreads you have rn?