Tarot Mafia

[Gemma]

Gemma would probably just vote off-wagon on that 3-way tbh. She tends to hate bussing at the best of times from memory.

It's not impossible for her to bus but tbh I have been holding onto a villa lean for her because of that memory of a meta.

I dunno how much I believe in that still tho

you crack me up man

gn

[EnderWiggin]

Sunbae's thread presence has not felt town to me.

I have removed em from POE because the spew from Benneh looks great and tbh the "Jump on sus on Ender" feels defintiely not w/w

But I can't deny I'm doubting.

[EnderWiggin]

you crack me up man

gn

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I swear if I've messed up people's Metas again I should just retire.

[EnderWiggin]

you will have to talk in words.

confused nick young

[Gemma]

you will have to talk in words.

b-but.. those are words...

its a gif where someone pauses and looks at the camera like ???

and then more ??? appear and it was quite funny back uh idk a lot of years ago

[Gemma]

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I swear if I've messed up people's Metas again I should just retire.

no u havent i just think its funny that on day whatever day this is u just have a townlean on me because of my day 1 vote

[grr]

10 players. 3 wolves.
7/3
Yeet me
6/3
Factional
5/3
If wolves have another 2kp night, it's 3/3 and we lose.

I'm not gonna accept a shrug yeet at this point. Yeet a wolf so I can be spewed town instead.

just out of curiosity do you have any specific player in mind who would do that for you?
as in

a) is town
b) recognises you are town or watever
c) finds a wolf and pushes them dead

because I have to inform you the game does not read like this is gonna happen. unless you're waiting for me specifically to push another villa i am pretty good at that

monte is kinda right that you fmpov at least knights/you has to have a wolf here for us to yeet any wolf? so umm. if you're town it really isnt looking good? basically the game has to be "easy" or we probably lose. lol.

[EnderWiggin]

no u havent i just think its funny that on day whatever day this is u just have a townlean on me because of my day 1 vote

[Gemma]

It would be pretty random, if I had telling questions I would have asked you already.

I am basically waiting and seeing if anyone has a coherent worldview that makes sense and I'm not seeing that. so ig the pressing question is who everyone wants to kill because if no one knows who the wolves are, then there are arbitrary reasons to pick any.

i mean only the wolves who know who the wolves are ???

"kill wisdom cuz xyz said so, kill knights cause it was dyas latest wolfreads" etcetcetc. if everyone is has no specific clue whats going on, that's cool, but we still would have to decide on flimsy reasons if we're not deciding on good reasons.

(Yeah I have seen Monte's reasons to kill Wisdom, that's like the only one who had commited so far ig.)

who has said to kill wisdom because xyz said so? didnt u say that? does anyone want to kill knights bc of dya ???

why do u think no one has any specific clue whats going on ??? wdym flimsy reasons ???

have u read any of my posts for the last few dayphases where ive repeatedly said i want to kill wisdom and knights and vanta ???

in short, confused nick young

[Maple]

Dolby was killed.

They were:

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

The Emperor



They were village!

24 hours for night., Night orders due 7pm, so 22 hours for night orders.




Obviously do NOT post at night, thanks.

Good morning chat. Unfortunately very few people are obviously villagery. I'm definitely playing this selfishly but you know how it is.

I don't really *get* v!Wisdom pov tbh

[Maple]

Thank you multiquote.

[Wisdom]

Can I ask you to outline some more explicit reasons for those 3? Or point me to a post if you've done that already and I missed it.

Mostly on the basis that they all seem to protect each other + the fact Maple did a lot of wolfy claims but has 20 Charisma and is a great strategist so he's good at makeing moves that seemingly makes him town. He was supposed to be mech clear since d3, his own words, and he still isn't.

[Wisdom]

just out of curiosity do you have any specific player in mind who would do that for you?
as in

a) is town
b) recognises you are town or watever
c) finds a wolf and pushes them dead

because I have to inform you the game does not read like this is gonna happen. unless you're waiting for me specifically to push another villa i am pretty good at that

monte is kinda right that you fmpov at least knights/you has to have a wolf here for us to yeet any wolf? so umm. if you're town it really isnt looking good? basically the game has to be "easy" or we probably lose. lol.

>:

Then I pray Knights is a wolf but I don't trust that to be the case. If we're v/v wolves are not gonna care about looking for wolves elsewhere so it's up to town. I have 3 wolf reads but Gemma apparently got cleared d1 (hard disagree) Maple got cleared for not getting killed by Jan (???) and Monte seems to be concencus PoE but no one seems to bother voting him.

[Wisdom]

just out of curiosity do you have any specific player in mind who would do that for you?
as in

a) is town
b) recognises you are town or watever
c) finds a wolf and pushes them dead

because I have to inform you the game does not read like this is gonna happen. unless you're waiting for me specifically to push another villa i am pretty good at that

monte is kinda right that you fmpov at least knights/you has to have a wolf here for us to yeet any wolf? so umm. if you're town it really isnt looking good? basically the game has to be "easy" or we probably lose. lol.

>:

Then I pray Knights is a wolf but I don't trust that to be the case. If we're v/v wolves are not gonna care about looking for wolves elsewhere so it's up to town. I have 3 wolf reads but Gemma apparently got cleared d1 (hard disagree) Maple got cleared for not getting killed by Jan (???) and Monte seems to be concencus PoE but no one seems to bother voting him.

[Wisdom]

Apologies, phone acted up

[grr]

i mean only the wolves who know who the wolves are ???

Umm. This wasn't meant literal but sometimes people have a solve they believe in. Sometimes it's even me but I don't like it when it'S me hehe. Like comeon you can't tell me that you don't know a thread where people who know what they are doing reads differently than a thread of just a buncha bored/tired/clueless people.

who has said to kill wisdom because xyz said so? didnt u say that? does anyone want to kill knights bc of dya ???

That would be my stance yeah. On both probably. I suppose other people care less about legacies than I do so maybe I'm projecting

why do u think no one has any specific clue whats going on ??? wdym flimsy reasons ???

Because no one here has... presented a solve for good reasons? We have yeeted 1 LHF wolf (allegedly polarized? dont know them), That's all we did. So how does anyone have a clue what's going on? Who is that person because I'd like to know them, unless it's a dead person then I'll point to the comment above

wdym flimsy reasons ???

I mean how about stuff your biggest townread has been yeeting people for:

nice shat

my PoE doesn't change. benneh was part of it, and apparently the strat of "vote people you don't remember anything from" strat is OP for DAORG

Monte said yeet wisdom for meritocratic reasons more or less (which is sensical but also not like a wolfcase lol)

have u read any of my posts for the last few dayphases where ive repeatedly said i want to kill wisdom and knights and vanta ???

This one is on me (the answer is I probably? have?) and probably? forgot?

so. uh. nya, you're welcome.

[Wisdom]

Or site is lagging? Huh

[Maple]

Mostly on the basis that they all seem to protect each other + the fact Maple did a lot of wolfy claims but has 20 Charisma and is a great strategist so he's good at makeing moves that seemingly makes him town. He was supposed to be mech clear since d3, his own words, and he still isn't.

You think I have 20 charisma? :3

[grr]

I'm gonna go for a walk and then I will crack this game open.

[grr]

Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 

last part was a joke, if u believed it i am sorry for you. im just hammersitting to kill anyone given the opportunity

[Montmorency]

Ender I'm pretty sure I've never randed mafia in any game we shared.

Also, there's no maj in this game. Traditionally, Org games never had maj.

If we had maj, it wouldn't have been possible for katze, in Visor's Sorceror 17er here, to do this.



Katze was solo wolf, I was the only one willing to vote her, and she convinced literally every player alive to vote me. I went out like a boss like the French Resistance fighter in the photo (click to expand).

Ender was scum that game btw. He might have conflated our alignments in his meta read on me above.

So I do usually get polarized; either Town or Mafia like to kill me midgame.

[Montmorency]

EBWOP: Edit "the" > "to"

[Maple]

gonna give things a lil bit longer, but its seeming like im gonna have to take charge this phase

alas

[grr]

I am rereading the game but i feel like every day wolves can do nothing and just hide behind me if I post my thoughts and thats no bueno, based on #1-#400 i wanna kill knights more than wis as his read on benneh really was very contrived. his read on syn was less cringe ig. inso wasn't towny there. also ig my question to inso is here why exactly do you think knights vote on you is... per se bad because it kinda... makes sense, like that doesnt make him a villager but who else *should* he be suspecting lol.

I am commited to have done a full readthrough (this isnt gonna do anything but make me feel better about myself).

[grr]

wasn't gemma meant to be obvious villager by now or is that a bad view to hold?

it feels like they're really distant in poking at stuff and the times i've read them it was incredibly easy to villa read them off their pushes. it's been about 35h since SoD and nothing really spicy from them but just placing really safe votes and that doesn't feel like their style at all. i woulda expected them to swing at a hard hitter thus far, but let me know if im wrong

Vote: insomnia

why?

in the mash i remember you pushing high profile players with much more ease and a ton of villageriness. in here you have ~nothing to say about hard hitters despite actively choosing not to get involved. i'd expect someone doing that to at least have something spicier to say and especially you

you are def not playing typical (at least from my viewing of your mash play and a few normals here), i haven't decided if you're a wolf or not for it, but i don't feel comfortable letting you off the hook if you won't provide some cool insight given you aren't getting involved. shouldn't that make it real easy to see you villaging?

just saying

what do you think about ladd voting you?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums...rchid=20690838

can u quote the post where i pushed ppl

and "ladd prob wolfing" rly doesn't count

man what is people's obsession with status in mafia

high profile this elite omegabrain that like omg

we're all just weird nerds typing random poopies into a little box for the memes

if u haven't decided i'm a wolf then don't shade me from the sidelines (that's why ur post is wolfy)

ladd's vote on me is silly and he'll presumably switch off at some point or not idc about it

umm my main takeaway from #400-#800 is maybe I should not be tinfoiling inso/gemma w/w. lmao

[Vanta Black]

Apologies to all for not being around for EoD yesterday. My computer screen just went nuts, and since I use it for work I had to stare at it for a few hours. Basically it's flashing, flickering, twisting, and looks like it's having a stroke and/or trying to give me one. It's sporadic so of course when someone who knows what they're doing looks at it it's fine. I just didn't want to deal with it any more than I had to for work.

Anyway, I was looking at the EoD votes and trying to figure out why Dolby got pushed, and I can see it. That claim, or series of claims, and then retraction just looked bad. None of it pointed me at all toward clearing Maple.

I have no idea if I would hvae still been TRing Dolby after reading all that, if I'd been in teh thread at the time.

But anyway we have two dead townies here, one of whom was bent on clearing Maple, and the other who used their last vote on Maple. This makes me really want to resolve Maple, who has been saying for days he would be resolved any minute now, and hasn't been.

[Vanta Black]

Number 3, but I already know what kind of donut I am.

[grr]

Mostly on the basis that they all seem to protect each other + the fact Maple did a lot of wolfy claims but has 20 Charisma and is a great strategist so he's good at makeing moves that seemingly makes him town. He was supposed to be mech clear since d3, his own words, and he still isn't.

this isnt true i think gemma pushed maple pretty hard yesterday cuz of the stuff with Jan. Also like. umm. This kind of reads like a weird way to push someone. Idk I cant even put my finger on it but like you're basically saying he's a great wolf so he's mafia and while I am certainly capable of pushing takes like that no one else should be allowed to :3

what im trying to say here without snark is your push reads really struggly in it's reasoning and it pings me. shrug. (and you are also echoing the words of a flipped wolf with the self-resolving thing). btw I think based on him being the role (sounds like a random-item inventor) it's plausible that he thought he would at least potentially self-resolve so it's at worst NAI but its not like he made up bullshit.

I reread all of d1 insos d1 was fine, I am vibing with how wiggins parses the game minor caveat its probably partially becuz he mistrusts sunbae as much as i do but the rest of it also reads decent to me.

[Vanta Black]

Why is Gemma in your town core?

So, Gemma voted Syn on D1, who flipped wolf, seemed like an unlikely bus. Now earlier she had given a townlean to Syn, and I didn't see the change in her posting. There were players, I forget who, who said Syn's posting was better than in the Saints game, but it looked exactly the same to me, and as Gemma was scum with Syn in that game I thought she might have recognized that. It could have been a bus, didn't look like it.

At the same time, to me her posting in the Saints game and this one seem different. She seems more keen to get some answers, in this one. Not...a lot more keen.

[Vanta Black]

Why is Gemma in your town core?

Also she wants to kill the same players I do, except for the one. (Me. obviouslu.)