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[ladd]

I don't think if you're a wolf who expects to flip that you leave a legacy post that correctly describes what your buddy is doing without voting him, that's not going to make him look good

Visor did the opposite of what wisdom described tho - wiadom said visor afks and then goes ham at eod as a wolf but here he did nothing at eod

Why would you shoot the cw to a wolf?
I should probably read what happened EoD first but this doesn't make sense to me

Why cant wagons be w/w? This is a weird read, i am sur eyou have seen wagons be w/w before

[Totally not Taffy]

With rask we were at basically same PoE as d1 except hally is a villager and we kinds feel taffy/cape could have a wolf (rask liked taffy second half less iirc)

Ender i thinkkkk is a villager cause visor suicided with that push. tho had a weird eod

ngl I feel like I would've been a better clear I played what was probably my best town game ever over the holidays and it was largely bc I got to be cleared town for four days

I mean I'm happy for Cuth and I guess he had a better chance of being a wolf but I'm the one who gets misyeeted every game

[Totally not Taffy]

Visor did the opposite of what wisdom described tho - wiadom said visor afks and then goes ham at eod as a wolf but here he did nothing at eod



Why cant wagons be w/w? This is a weird read, i am sur eyou have seen wagons be w/w before

I haven't read EoD yet I don't have time for it rn I was just going to go through this morning's posts quickly

and yes I've seen w/w wagons but they're not as common as w/v wagons
I'd never shoot the cw to a wolf I'd shoot someone who was on that cw or someone who had a particularly bad EoD

[Totally not Taffy]

i considered during the night whether the ender/visor stuff could have been some planned bus where visor didn’t wanna play so he told ender he was gonna bs a push on him so ender could be spewed and get some cred

normally i wouldn’t entertain something like this but visor’s post about ender was just… so bizarre and it being a plan helps rationalize why visor didn’t fight his lunch at all

but anyway, just a tinfoil for now

not a planned bus but if they felt certain town!Wisdom was going to get yeeted might've been planned distancing for after one of them flipped later
I'm glad you said it's tinfoil bc that's stuff to consider in FX not now

[Totally not Taffy]

i don’t think the backtrack was weird really, ender basically had the same thought process there as me

i.e. “it seems really out of character for w!visor to give up like this but don’t know where else to go so guess i’ll stay”

i mean, last time visor was a wolf we saw him fight his lunch hard and set up spew despite his lunch being even more of a foregone conclusion than it was here, so with that context i think it’s reasonable to get cold feet at him rolling over

but yeah, i think that’s a good point that it was pretty unnecessary if it was a planned bus cuz at the point visor came back i thought wisdom was getting lunched for sure and don’t think we would have gone visor if he hadn’t made that post

see, this
no reason why wolves weren't thinking the same thing at the time

[Totally not Taffy]

ladd, hypothetically, might you be a bodyguard?

Why would Ladd be the extra role you think there is?
I assume he walked into that chat and went "I'm VT" bc that's how I'd initially claim in a chat with an unconfirmed player regardless of my actual role

[Totally not Taffy]

manti, didn’t you change up your villaging style recently to something more transparently villagery or no?

why do i still have no idea what your alignment is or what you think about anything?

What's your impression of Maple's EoD?

Asking bc Vaimes and Syn seem to think it was bad enough to vote her immediately today but not Ender or you so now I'm curious

[Totally not Taffy]

Its more about the cooperation than the transparency. "Transparency" as something i've evoked only reminds me of the shadowhydra game where i claimed to be working on that and just posted stupid bullshit that tilted people. That was really funny.

But no, I'm just generally low engagement this game. I haven't really had anything here take my reigns and pull me into an exciting direction. Yesterday ended up being a boring d1, as usual. I don't have high hopes for today.

I do have *some* stuff to work with at least, im considering whether or not to claim my mechs now or to just leave it for later.

Who do you think looks good/bad from EoD?

[Hally]

It needs to be a true role claim but its not alignment indicative

(Like manti was saying vanilla could be both vt and goon, same applies with any role)

At least thats what rask told me anyway

if he told you that i suspect he either misunderstood how his role worked or lied to you

[Hally]

you can read this whole quote wall on yall's own but what I am seeing is

1. Taffy being super aware of any pressure/negative comment they have been getting and feeling a tad abrasive either over it, or just in general

2. I take issue with specifically which feels like an egg on.

3. I feel like all this was supposed to be a gotcha on how Rask was hardly explaining his Wisdom suspicion, but then it just... it feels strange that Taffy compiled all of these and basically just summarized most of the posts. And it leaves me feeling like "why is this post so busy? What was I supposed to get out of that? What is Rask supposed to get out of that?"

iirc the bolded is normal for taffy and might even be town indicative, but not sure


i think your other points are solid, just not sure if they make taffy a wolf

my recollection from turbos is she’s a pretty unusual player in terms of thought process/approach, but not sure if i’ve ever seen her in a longform game

may go look later

[Hally]

Hi think my initial Hally vibes were loose and that they were the one hedging the most wrt me. Could have been genuine anxious but I town read others more, so into null they go

it’s funny that you town read me for pretty much no reason D1 when i was easily in wolf range at that point but then i actually do something villagery and now you don’t lol

i defended you a bunch and was the one who shifted momentum to visor instead

[Hally]

Yeah I don't really understand that either, but she could be vanilla mafia vs what Visor was, like theoretically i dont think mafia would have wanted Visor to die there... but I also haven't looked closely enough at how good the role actually was so idk.

i think people tend to put more focus on what roles wolves had than wolves do

in mashes it’s a thing with wolf kp but in a game like this i think a wolf team wants whoever is most town read and active to live

and visor’s role wasn’t really good idt, it was an odd night vanillizer right? not really worth saving when he was never living to N3 so it’s at best one shot N1 when you don’t even know anyone’s roles

[Wisdom]

it’s funny that you town read me for pretty much no reason D1 when i was easily in wolf range at that point but then i actually do something villagery and now you don’t lol

i defended you a bunch and was the one who shifted momentum to visor instead

Yep I might just be slow!

[Hally]

What's your impression of Maple's EoD?

Asking bc Vaimes and Syn seem to think it was bad enough to vote her immediately today but not Ender or you so now I'm curious

i don’t know, it was a very manti EoD

more focused on the mechanical side (i.e “we need a counterwagon guys”) than what people’s alignments are and who should die

it would honestly be weirder for her if she did something else

tbh i’m not sure anything she’s posted is alignment indicative for her lol

[Hally]

cape seems like a villager to me

feel like he genuinely believes he found something with his taffy push but is still trying to solve her

no idea how he wolfs but waza had him lock v so good enough for me

[Wisdom]

cape seems like a villager to me

feel like he genuinely believes he found something with his taffy push but is still trying to solve her

no idea how he wolfs but waza had him lock v so good enough for me

^
Fully agree

[Wisdom]

Hally what do you think about my PoE outside the fact you're in it?

[Maple]

i don’t know, it was a very manti EoD

more focused on the mechanical side (i.e “we need a counterwagon guys”) than what people’s alignments are and who should die

it would honestly be weirder for her if she did something else

tbh i’m not sure anything she’s posted is alignment indicative for her lol

Yeah but like

I was right :3

[Maple]

I'm just gonna claim the poem

Yes, it had to be a poem

[Wisdom]

Nice

Vote: Manti

[Maple]

Not a fan of the arts?

[Maple]

Game seems easy

Which is annoying

[Hally]

Cuth v
Syn v
Cape v
Vaimes v

Hally?
Ladd?
Taffy?
Ender? v?
Maple?

That's a winnable PoE I think

wisdom, your PoE seems fine

mine would be this except with you instead of me

honestly don’t think taffy is a wolf though

[Hally]

Game seems easy

Which is annoying

how can it be easy fypov? in the easy world you’re a wolf

what’s your ez PoE?

[Maple]

Their poe has one wolf tops. Which isn't great when your sample is >4

5 also isn't a winning poe. There's 3 dead, 10p, we have 4 kills unless a medic gets a save or something. 2 saves if wolves have a 1x vigi.

But all that aside, I doubt my reads are *that* awful.

[Maple]

how can it be easy fypov? in the easy world you’re a wolf

what’s your ez PoE?

I'm clearing ladd who seems to be comfortable clearing you. Cuth cape vaimes.

And I even have enough room to kill ender, who's reasonably likely to be a villager!

I can see one specific line where vsimes is a wolf, but he'd presumably be exactly kp or some shit like that, locking in on s partner like that is just so low equity. I'm reasonably confident on my cape read and don't feel the need to get into the specifics right now.

The game really *should* be easy from here.

[Maple]

Idk not a whole lot to talk about. We just kill whoever in the bottom half who seems to be struggling, do that for the next 3 days, and presumably that ends it.

We presumably have another PR out there but I presume it's someone who isn't getting too much pressure right now.

[Hally]

I'm clearing ladd who seems to be comfortable clearing you. Cuth cape vaimes.

And I even have enough room to kill ender, who's reasonably likely to be a villager!

I can see one specific line where vsimes is a wolf, but he'd presumably be exactly kp or some shit like that, locking in on s partner like that is just so low equity. I'm reasonably confident on my cape read and don't feel the need to get into the specifics right now.

The game really *should* be easy from here.

so barring weirdness your world is taffy/wisdom? which i’m not sure fits

or you think syn can be a wolf? doubtful imo

genuinely don’t get why you’re clearing ladd, rask’s role working has no bearing on ladd’s alignment

[Hally]

if someone can help me feel good about clearing vaimes it would do wonders

without rereading his posts i’m somewhere at he’s making good posts with good toan and activity that should make him a villager most times but not sure i can recall something that really sticks out as beyond the range of a competent wolf

@Cuthillius maybe you can help here


vote: ladd

[ladd]

Idk how manti always rands the dumbest PRs lmao

Rask called it too



Vaimes eod seemed pretty uninformed to me, he was 1 of the top 2 waza villa reads and he has seemed to clearly care about who the wolves are. I can re read him but I dont see why he would not be a villager