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[nebjiamn]

Yeah I get that hence why ur town 99% of the town, I’ll admit if ur a wolf I never seen u play like this before or like most people for that matter lmao. Hence why my read is biased because yeah idk whilst I get ur sus on me and it’s easy to pick up why some of my stuff may look bad in a vacuum there’s some bigger picture stuff with me that I feel like ur not accounting for (atleast that’s how it feels fmpov)

The easy and simple answer is that ur just overburdened by exploring every single angle of info you can get and somewhat overloading yourself/getting lost in the sauce, but that doesn’t stop me from considering the world that you are keeping me in the poe for nefarious reasons too, it’s a natural reaction that I think any villa would have in my shoes. Again if u were some dingo at reading me it would matter less but ur defs in the top tier of people at it. Dya and ladd are both up there and they managed to find me fairly quickly and easy for example

But yeah probs best if we don’t waste too many more posts on this since like I said occams is we are v/v and since we are both the top posters it would be pretty -ev if we both blow our posts counts going back and forth in what is most likely just v/v conundrums

to be fair i think you are the overblowing things lol. i don't think i'm overloading myself or getting lost in the sauce so much as i'm just building a POE I think is right and then questioning it as needed

consider this:

-there are 2 wolves left and you are in my bottom 5 (was 6, but then one of them died overnight)

-if my math is right, we presumably have at least 4 collective kills before we reach a lylo situation and altogether we (the collective we) need to build a poe of around 6 players that has both wolves to achieve 'auto.' and some of those POE, if they flip wolf, clear you from my pov, not even accounting any other interactions going forward

-i don't think i've even pressed on you very hard, i just wanted to know why you didn't vote rask and i found your answer relatively satisfactory.

-since the nightkill and other discussions i've been sliding around where some of the people lower in my list mgiht fall, since sunbae's exit necessitates me to at least move 1 person down into a larger poe

so i don't think its unfair for you to think i could be wolf. and it WOULD be fair for you to question the people above you in my poe if you think you shouldn't be in the bottom 6. but i don' tthink its fair to act like i'm in a tunnel or causing wasted posts right now, especially when we're all very much in a wait-and-see mode right now for the wolfiest players to do something

[waza]

to be fair i think you are the overblowing things lol. i don't think i'm overloading myself or getting lost in the sauce so much as i'm just building a POE I think is right and then questioning it as needed

consider this:

-there are 2 wolves left and you are in my bottom 5 (was 6, but then one of them died overnight)

-if my math is right, we presumably have at least 4 collective kills before we reach a lylo situation and altogether we (the collective we) need to build a poe of around 6 players that has both wolves to achieve 'auto.' and some of those POE, if they flip wolf, clear you from my pov, not even accounting any other interactions going forward

-i don't think i've even pressed on you very hard, i just wanted to know why you didn't vote rask and i found your answer relatively satisfactory.

-since the nightkill and other discussions i've been sliding around where some of the people lower in my list mgiht fall, since sunbae's exit necessitates me to at least move 1 person down into a larger poe

so i don't think its unfair for you to think i could be wolf. and it WOULD be fair for you to question the people above you in my poe if you think you shouldn't be in the bottom 6. but i don' tthink its fair to act like i'm in a tunnel or causing wasted posts right now, especially when we're all very much in a wait-and-see mode right now for the wolfiest players to do something

Yeah I’m not saying ur in a tunnel or wasting posts

My issue is with some more macro stuff, like for example I was pressing you on not finding Annika or Stett town yesterday. Now they’re ur top 2 town, which yeah I agree with. But fmpov relative to ur reads I’ve only townsided so far so it’s just odd to see me at the bottom fmpov. That’s what I been by getting lost in the sauce because yeah if we take away all the weird stuff I done when it comes down to it I defended the people ur calling ur top town and was the only person talking about the slot who we have seen flip wolf so far.

Also I don’t think any of ur posts are wasted but when you see me post something that’s shady or perhaps uncharitable to you, you will be inclined to reply like you just did. Same for me, so I’m not saying any singular post you made is a waste but it’s moreso that since nobody else is here or pushing the game forward much every time we see each other post we are gonna be inclined to reply to point out what we feel is wrong, like you just did and like I am doing now.

And then we wont have enough posts left for eod or to grill the poe slots,

[Arctic]

when it comes down to giving people cred for the rask push i'm kinda at a loss because he was 0 posting and the role seemed not that strong (unless i don't understand it correctly)

especially if taffy ends up being a wolf

i know that either way the easy answer is that wolves would stack on me instead of bussing, but i think it would be a pretty good move to make to get significant towncred without losing much of value (lol)

[nebjiamn]

last thing ill say on that waza is that i DID find stett town and the receipts are there lol

me being nitpicky with some of her tone and actions prior to that is no different from the way you flip flopped on her a few times but i had her as one of my lock towns long before EOD and i think even before you finally settled on her being lock again. just because i have someone very hard town doesn't mean i don't question some of their posts from time to time and i feel like you of all people should acknowledge that since you did the exact same with the same exact poster?

i found annika while i was capped and she had her back and forth with maple so meh, fair enough on that point ig, but in the sense of you 'townsiding' for having them as top 2 town, i don't really view anyone's wolfing like in such a shallow way? stett and annika are easy towns to clear as wolf /shrugze

i am aware of your townsiding in that sense but to make this more productive i'd just ask: of my POE of 6 (assume I slid arctic or dya down), who among the other players NOT within my poe, do you think I should be townreading less and takeover your slot in that list? don't bother answering this now,--sincerely--this is a bigger question than this exact moment, but feel free to throw a post at me later tomorrow or so depending on where we both are landing.

[Maple]

i eated pizza life is good

idr the name of that like italian salted spicy meat but it had that on it

eepy af but dont wanna wait till tmr so yall are getting the tldr version of my v list, im somehwere along the lines of

visor
benneh
lissa
arctic
annika
dyachei

top half at the moment, mostly unordered. Rask cfd >>rand pure (there were strong viable counters in taffy/me/ladd/arctic(though arctic wasnt a *real*, viable wagon given waza+others were defending). upon review i think dya posted well enough not a whole lot of notes, concluded lissa v likely village we'll see if ive developed into a lissa specialist but i feel fairly confident about this one, and went through arctics posts itg vs some of our other previous games and came away thinking hes prooooob v (arctic also has a history of fucking TUNNELING me, so him *not* pushing me itg and being pretty medium to positive on me actually stood out originally lol)

i did end up looking back at hsr and a few other games, and i MAINTAIN that annika is factually wrong on a few matters (the way she boiled my read down sucked) for example wrt pushes because the push on her in both hsr and ftr for example strike similarly to me (just comparing two pushes from the same player, though the game formats/subs/well the ftr game was lowkey toxic in atmosphere due to how fucked hte game was) and that her treatment of my slot was BAD and didnt have the same villagery clueless curiosity that she exuded during the hsr game, but i concede that it is HIGHLY unlikely that she buses rask in that postion as one of the most important/pivotal voters there (she opened up the possibility of compromising w/ lissa, which effectively bought 2 votes). so just gonna take the L here and conclude that the incongruity i found is probably nai.

visor is a gentleman who paid for brunch with gets him a free pass and benneh is my n0

[Maple]

i eated pizza life is good

idr the name of that like italian salted spicy meat but it had that on it

eepy af but dont wanna wait till tmr so yall are getting the tldr version of my v list, im somehwere along the lines of

visor
benneh
lissa
arctic
annika
dyachei

top half at the moment, mostly unordered. Rask cfd >>rand pure (there were strong viable counters in taffy/me/ladd/arctic(though arctic wasnt a *real*, viable wagon given waza+others were defending). upon review i think dya posted well enough not a whole lot of notes, concluded lissa v likely village we'll see if ive developed into a lissa specialist but i feel fairly confident about this one, and went through arctics posts itg vs some of our other previous games and came away thinking hes prooooob v (arctic also has a history of fucking TUNNELING me, so him *not* pushing me itg and being pretty medium to positive on me actually stood out originally lol)

i did end up looking back at hsr and a few other games, and i MAINTAIN that annika is factually wrong on a few matters (the way she boiled my read down sucked) for example wrt pushes because the push on her in both hsr and ftr for example strike similarly to me (just comparing two pushes from the same player, though the game formats/subs/well the ftr game was lowkey toxic in atmosphere due to how fucked hte game was) and that her treatment of my slot was BAD and didnt have the same villagery clueless curiosity that she exuded during the hsr game, but i concede that it is HIGHLY unlikely that she buses rask in that postion as one of the most important/pivotal voters there (she opened up the possibility of compromising w/ lissa, which effectively bought 2 votes). so just gonna take the L here and conclude that the incongruity i found is probably nai.

visor is a gentleman who paid for brunch with gets him a free pass and benneh is my n0

and stett is my n1 so she should be right below benneh