Kylo Ren's Banana Time Mafia

[Cape90]

I've been thinking

3 wolves or 2 wolves?

seen 13er's be both

[Cape90]

i was thinking about that due to knight's 3p role, like having 3 mafia and 1 third party seems a bit much except for the things knights gave us being kp related stuff which could maybe make sense in a 3 mafia setting?

[Raskolnikov]

i was thinking about that due to knight's 3p role, like having 3 mafia and 1 third party seems a bit much except for the things knights gave us being kp related stuff which could maybe make sense in a 3 mafia setting?

Think its a 3 woofs setup for raisins but I guess its not that much relevant for now?

[Maple]

I've been thinking

3 wolves or 2 wolves?

seen 13er's be both

Can you link me to any 13ers you've played with 2 wolves?

[Cape90]

Can you link me to any 13ers you've played with 2 wolves?

you know

you have a good point,

derp rescinded

before you tr me for this, i would do this because its funny as wolf

like for some reason my brain was thinking of 10ers, where i have seen 3 mafia. Call it chat mafia experience

[Visor]

I've been thinking

3 wolves or 2 wolves?

seen 13er's be both

My guess is 3 unless it's like 2 and some kind of kp

Though tbh with knights role who knows

[Visor]

gonna be real, don't really think village raskol thinks it is a bright idea to kill nl who actually made posts (and some of those posts were pretty good @GeneralHankerchief)

i get not liking my read progression or whatever the kids call it these days but i think your personal dislike of my read doesn't make it wolfy - lack of understanding seems to be my undoing a lot these days which is frustrating but it isn't like i can become a different person in that respect (nor would i want to)

even going into today, theres no thought process behind it, its just 'kill visor' which is the kind of thing you post (similar to how he did at eod) when its not about actually putting the game together, but just about pushing your wincon forward

i would like to think that village raskol would be both cautious and optimistic about my alignment, because its generally enjoyable to work together but i don't really think he has said anything that really approximates that kind of process

its sad, i have a sentimental streak about wolfreading friends, but sometimes they go mask off like that and i guess it just cuts out lol

don't think he could've painted the words IM A WOLF anymore clearly to me than his eod (maybe esp given logic flipping v)

[EnderWiggin]

gonna be real, don't really think village raskol thinks it is a bright idea to kill nl who actually made posts (and some of those posts were pretty good @GeneralHankerchief)

i get not liking my read progression or whatever the kids call it these days but i think your personal dislike of my read doesn't make it wolfy - lack of understanding seems to be my undoing a lot these days which is frustrating but it isn't like i can become a different person in that respect (nor would i want to)

even going into today, theres no thought process behind it, its just 'kill visor' which is the kind of thing you post (similar to how he did at eod) when its not about actually putting the game together, but just about pushing your wincon forward

i would like to think that village raskol would be both cautious and optimistic about my alignment, because its generally enjoyable to work together but i don't really think he has said anything that really approximates that kind of process

its sad, i have a sentimental streak about wolfreading friends, but sometimes they go mask off like that and i guess it just cuts out lol

don't think he could've painted the words IM A WOLF anymore clearly to me than his eod (maybe esp given logic flipping v)

Rask has absolutely gone aggressive vote on you before as town with not a ~lot of reasoning.

The game I just posted a quote from Rask was pushing you pretty heavily on D1 (And was the first person to really start a wagon on you that game).

In fact iirc Rask's carelessly aggressive pushing is more aligned with his towngame than wolfgame?

[EnderWiggin]

Also Lissa might be my second biggest sus after re-reading eod.

There's a lot of wishywashy ending in a lame vote on Logic. And the 'agonising' over who to sus doesn't really feel like it's going anywhere. Maybe will feel diff after they enter D2 but this is worthy of a

[Gemma]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 2 - Votes from post 370 through 427

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
3	Visor	EnderWiggin (6), Raskolnikov (9), waza (1)
2	Raskolnikov	Sunbae (13), Visor (14)
6	Not Voting	Cape90 (9), Jan (0), Lissa (0), Logic (0), Maple (3), ladd (1)

[ladd]

vote:lissa

[EnderWiggin]

Turby Org Vote Counter v1.0
Day 2 - Votes from post 370 through 427

Votes	Target	Voters (Posts in Phase)
3	Visor	EnderWiggin (6), Raskolnikov (9), waza (1)
2	Raskolnikov	Sunbae (13), Visor (14)
6	Not Voting	Cape90 (9), Jan (0), Lissa (0), Logic (0), Maple (3), ladd (1)

I kinda dont think visor is a wolf now

But i dont think rask is a wolf either (more strongly so)

Not sure if them being v/v works out tho lol

[Lissa]

Also Lissa might be my second biggest sus after re-reading eod.

There's a lot of wishywashy ending in a lame vote on Logic. And the 'agonising' over who to sus doesn't really feel like it's going anywhere. Maybe will feel diff after they enter D2 but this is worthy of a

idk what agonising you are talking about, i don't remember agonising lol

i didn't want to kill maple, i kinda liked a couple of her posts

i thought visor was a villa

i had a decent few people i thought were villas so killing someone ~rand seemed fine and i didn't have an alternative i really liked with any confidence to be interested to push

[waza]

I’m less willing to vote Jan now than I was earlier in the phase after their recent stint of posts

But not willing enough to put them in town list yet

[Raskolnikov]

Rask has absolutely gone aggressive vote on you before as town with not a ~lot of reasoning.

The game I just posted a quote from Rask was pushing you pretty heavily on D1 (And was the first person to really start a wagon on you that game).

In fact iirc Rask's carelessly aggressive pushing is more aligned with his towngame than wolfgame?

Tout a fait. (Yes, its true. And visor knows it. Yet he is here posting nonsense and pinging GH to make him smile out of his meme posts. We are supposed to tr that. Right.)

[waza]

gonna be real, don't really think village raskol thinks it is a bright idea to kill nl who actually made posts (and some of those posts were pretty good @GeneralHankerchief)

i get not liking my read progression or whatever the kids call it these days but i think your personal dislike of my read doesn't make it wolfy - lack of understanding seems to be my undoing a lot these days which is frustrating but it isn't like i can become a different person in that respect (nor would i want to)

even going into today, theres no thought process behind it, its just 'kill visor' which is the kind of thing you post (similar to how he did at eod) when its not about actually putting the game together, but just about pushing your wincon forward

i would like to think that village raskol would be both cautious and optimistic about my alignment, because its generally enjoyable to work together but i don't really think he has said anything that really approximates that kind of process

its sad, i have a sentimental streak about wolfreading friends, but sometimes they go mask off like that and i guess it just cuts out lol

don't think he could've painted the words IM A WOLF anymore clearly to me than his eod (maybe esp given logic flipping v)

How does logic flipping v make it look worse for rask?

Ngl rask is probs the person I’m least likely to vote today (maybe that doesn’t mean much given how little I’ve read so I’m not very confident or attached to my reads)

But yeah feels like villa rask, and I like to think I have a pretty decent read on him, I’m sure if there is someone better it would be u at reading him I may reconsider if I ever come around to u being v, but even then it might be a tough sell ngl. Do u really think w!rask would really expose themselves as you say to push you here? Why not just NK you? Why not just push someone like me instead when I have barely any presence and nobody would blame him for being wrong me (heck even I wouldn’t blame him). Why do u think he would bother to push a v!visor who is present and posting as you say

@Visor

[ladd]

Ill play the unonrrverse card and say that the one thing that lings me about visor is their push on maple. It almost feels w/w eheh


Anyway i ll sheep sunbae for a bit and see what happens

[waza]

Rest of Enders posts today are okay enough

Anyone have a read on Jan? Probs another slot whose posts I didn’t read yesterday because of timing not aligning with mine

[EnderWiggin]

Rest of Enders posts today are okay enough

Anyone have a read on Jan? Probs another slot whose posts I didn’t read yesterday because of timing not aligning with mine

I had Jan as wolfy. They kinda misrepped me in a "defend Maple but not directly" way that kinda felt paired but idk if I'm reading too much into it.

It was this whole "How does Ender do this to Maple?!??!?"

[Visor]

kinda disappointing showing today so far, but i guess we're all cowards afraid to post in case the spooky wolves get us

was hoping from more from sunbae/ladd/jan/knights tbh

manti also seems like a wolf which means i won't look like an idiot this game thankfully (hopefully)

really wish ender and lissa would post some thoughts sil vous plais

[Visor]

@Jan

what do you make of vanta dying overnight - specifically because they were wolfreading you yesterday?

[Visor]

also i cant fucking pull super creek

tilting. tempted to reroll

[Sunbae]

vote: raskol ill poke here for you

[Visor]

vote: raskol ill poke here for you

[Cape90]

vote: raskol ill poke here for you

Was there something Visor said that made you really turn to voting raskol? Or do you think it's more productive at this moment to pressure raskol versus Lissa because you feel more sure about Lissa vs Rask?

[Jan]

@Jan

what do you make of vanta dying overnight - specifically because they were wolfreading you yesterday?

*shrug* wasn't me, chief.

I don't see a good reason to kill vanta outside of strong wolfteam wants to be confusing.

[Jan]

I liked cape, ender and sunbae the most when catching up today.

I think this was a good post by waza while everything else he did was kind of whatever.

Entertaining the visor/rask v/v worlds some more since my mind is now on it

Kinda think sunbae looks worse in this hypothetical, not sure I really understand their reasoning for not pushing me today and obviously in a visor/rask v/v world it’s easy to see agenda in that they can just pursue keeping these two at odds against each other whilst shelving me as a push later on in the game. Like they haven’t really indicated any real reason to not push me today so I’m not sure I buy why they wanna give me more space especially since they’re not really trying to prod me to try and squeeze something AI from me to try and find me here

Also not a fan for how convoluted their cape read is, seems like there’s too many unnecessary layers to it. Feels like it should just be as simple as saying cape is posting like a villa so he’s probs just a villa. Don’t really see the need to build hypothetical wolf teams to try and use that to clear cape off. But maybe that’s just a difference in playstyle and me finding cape to be more obvious than others may find him

Vote:Lissa

[Jan]

Raskolnikov
EnderWiggin

Cape90
Sunbae

waza
ladd
Visor

Maple
Lissa


This is my order right now.

Maple is not a wolf by play and just down there because everyone above has done things to be towny.

Rask is toptier purely on vibes.
Enders d1 intro rarely comes from a wolf and I liked his d2 start as well.

[EnderWiggin]

I liked cape, ender and sunbae the most when catching up today.

I think this was a good post by waza while everything else he did was kind of whatever.



Vote:Lissa

Raskolnikov
EnderWiggin

Cape90
Sunbae

waza
ladd
Visor

Maple
Lissa


This is my order right now.

Maple is not a wolf by play and just down there because everyone above has done things to be towny.

Rask is toptier purely on vibes.
Enders d1 intro rarely comes from a wolf and I liked his d2 start as well.

This isn't clearing for Lissa but for Spew that's kinda a very good look. I think I've already pointed at this sequence before but I'm rebuilding my shit so nyeh.

[ladd]

manti also seems like a wolf which means i won't look like an idiot this game thankfully (hopefully)

iirc this is where i started to think visor/maple w/w. Visor only push so far was essentially a naked vote at eod on maple:

vote: manti

I will endeavour to check in before eod but no promises there

Ladd if you can please explain why you changed your mind on ender that would be great, his entry just seemed crap to me

so the wording of the post about not looking like an idiot if manti is a wolf seems weird and trying to grab credit for a maple wolf flip