Kylo Ren's Banana Time Mafia

[Lissa]

To give out the gun.

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if im on a team with jan/not ender here yeah prob

its like... handing the village a free extra kill since we were on evens... and letting the village avoid going to mylo... i don't think that'd be worth "maybe make people worry about ender from that lens but also maybe make people village read them"? seems not fuckin worth lol

[Lissa]

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uh

if im on a team with jan/not ender here yeah prob

its like... handing the village a free extra kill since we were on evens... and letting the village avoid going to mylo... i don't think that'd be worth "maybe make people worry about ender from that lens but also maybe make people village read them"? seems not fuckin worth lol

i think as a wolf there my stance is always either holster or bury+have someone claim

give to a villa thats not being killed seems way higher loss than gain iyam

[Lissa]

if we werent on day evens or the wolf was a less clear my stance obv is somewhat different

but in jans position and the gamestate there it seems...

[Lissa]

(if i was actually a wolf bussing jan tho im pretty sure i just commit at eod and get SUPER clear for it LMAO) if enders a villager, jan making it thru eod honestly didnt get wolves a whole lot

My thoughts on rask is that like every dead villager had rask as an obvious villager and even alive people are all circling around it (ladd has it strong, ender does too, then visor/lissa are kinda like yeah i want to call rask a wolf but maybe hes just v).

If I look at his posting myself then I do have a few concerns. First, he's had multiple instances of throwing Jan into wolf reads (needs more votes, likes visors callout of jan for the vanta night kill when he was wolfreading jan, if visor villa we need to looks at maple/lissa/jan) but never actually applying any pressure there like he does to maple and lissa in similar spots. Second, I feel like the Vanta kill comes after rask getting to talk to him all night means there could be more than rasks post about their hood chats (that is, vanta gives reads and rask is like oh lets kill him). Third, I feel like the flip flopping on visor is odd in the strength of things. The reasons listed for pushing visor are strong things such as "isnt trying to find peoples alignment", "too proactive for villa visor" but the reasons for backing off are just like "well i hate to admit it but maybe visor is a villa" without anything specific and concrete as a reason to point to for that feeling. Which I find concerning because either you're exaggerating your strength of the wolf read to back off of it for lighter reasons or you're less willing to describe why you're villa reading him rather than wolf reading him. Which both make me go hmmm.

HOWEVER, there are good call outs of jan in there even if they aren't followed up on. There is clear back and forth on visor thoughts. He is trying to get his wolf reads killed and not laying back in commentary mode. He's sticking his neck out into things and bouncing around topics. His strong villa reads seem good.

Gun to head I'm calling him a villager based off of the dead villagers and the fact that I have to elaborately explain ways he could be a wolf while the ways he can be a villager are just "yeah hes playing well as a villager, makes sense"

"then visor/lissa are kinda like yeah i want to call rask a wolf but maybe hes just v"

i wouldn't really say this was the case ftr! i would not say i "wanted to call rask a wolf" at any point today, really. i think he is VERY villagery even when (especially when) he was prodding me at sod i thought that came from a villa >>>>rand, and the only hesitation i think i have had was basically some tinfoil nonsense about that list that didn't include ender slips aren't real etc etc

[Maple]

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if im on a team with jan/not ender here yeah prob

its like... handing the village a free extra kill since we were on evens... and letting the village avoid going to mylo... i don't think that'd be worth "maybe make people worry about ender from that lens but also maybe make people village read them"? seems not fuckin worth lol

Mhm, it'd take a LOT of raw confidence to do.

[Lissa]

Mhm, it'd take a LOT of raw confidence to do.

jan like actually thinking he can talk out of the kill would be kinda wild imo given like the free-ness of the kill, mechanically

and ender WAS wolfreading him just like also me lmao

[Maple]

eh

yeah.

So it's a choice that doesn't make sense to me, is all.

[Lissa]

eh

yeah.

So it's a choice that doesn't make sense to me, is all.

yeeeeeep

im more hmmmmming the more i talk/think about it

[Lissa]

which definitely has me kind of mrging cause like i do not think you and ender are w/w lmao

[Lissa]

giving village an extra kill in exchange for arguably just not really being THAT clear is weird too tho ngl