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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7706977.stm

    Take what you may from this, but i find it a very reassuring event. I can only hope something good comes out of this.

    Quote Originally Posted by BBC News
    The high-ranking delegation going to Rome includes the Grand Mufti of Bosnia, an Iranian Ayatollah, a Jordanian prince and British converts to Islam.

    Ibrahim Kalin says the Christian belief in Jesus as part of a divine trinity with God the Father and the Holy Spirit conflicts with Muslim doctrine.

    "We don't agree on that, so we shouldn't try to sink these differences into a warped theology, but talk to each other on the basis of agreeing to disagree."
    We can only hope these talks go well. If they do, then it shows there is truly some hope and sanity in the world.
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    I'm sceptic. The Orthodox and the Roman Catholic Chruch still differ each other, though in many aspects they are close. Muslim world is very different from our own, and it has different stereotypes than the Christian (however relative that term could be). The only things that could be achieved is more tolerance and that's something that worths the efforts. But of course, there will always be extremists... Knowledge in any sense of the world is extremely important since ignorance causes distrust and hatred...(some philosophical ending).

    In fact no religion teaches to hatred and violance.
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    When 138 senior Muslim scholars and clergy tried to establish the common ground between Islam and Christianity last year, they said the very peace of the world hung on the outcome.


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    Yay its the one world religion.
    At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.

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    so they are willing to talk about their imaginary space gods rather than kill each other about them?

    it´s a step in the right direction.....but I wouldn´t call it sanity...not yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    so they are willing to talk about their imaginary space gods rather than kill each other about them?

    it´s a step in the right direction.....but I wouldn´t call it sanity...not yet.
    No offence intended, but, by taking such an aggressive stance and vilifying them, i.e. religious people(s), you actually sound just as bad as them. Your effectively doing the same thing as some sections of their denominations. In a sense endorsing, and entrenching the same discrimination, the same anger and hatred. And in the same way, just like them, you can justify it in your own mind. Only the path that takes you there is different.

    Humans are all the same. No one is above it, don't kid yourself into believing that since you are free from religion you are free from the frills of humanity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rythmic View Post
    No offence intended, but, by taking such an aggressive stance and vilifying them, i.e. religious people(s), you actually sound just as bad as them. Your effectively doing the same thing as some sections of their denominations. In a sense endorsing, and entrenching the same discrimination, the same anger and hatred. And in the same way, just like them, you can justify it in your own mind. Only the path that takes you there is different.

    Humans are all the same. No one is above it, don't kid yourself into believing that since you are free from religion you are free from the frills of humanity.

    Have a balloon.
    allowing any difference to come between people that stems from a non-reality based root cause is not "sanity"....my post only highlighted that through some use of irony...

    and hate?....I don´t hate religion......It´s too good a subject of humor to hate.
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    In essence i can see where ronin is coming from, i see religion as fairly similar to superstitious belief, i consider superstition to be stupid, i just wouldn't state that religion is stupid because there are so many religious people, i guess its more out of respect than simply because theres lots of them, also superstitious people usually realise thier superstitions are kind of crazy... whereas most religious people would not see thier religion in a similar light..
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