13 year old Girl raped and than stoned for "adultary"

**KrooK** · 11-06-2008, 15:06

And you are claiming that it was Whites who taught them to stone children?

**Andres** · 11-06-2008, 15:08

Originally Posted by KrooK

And you are claiming that it was Whites who taught them to stone children?

Did you read LEN's other posts in this thread, in particular the one I quoted 10 posts ago?

There you will find LEN's opinion on this sad event.

**LittleGrizzly** · 11-06-2008, 15:36

Now what words did uncle Fragony use?

indeed.

ok fine lets look at your words, page 1 of this thread

No I think it's quite safe to attribute it to the muslim faith,

As safe as it is to attribute the holocaust to christianity or germanness ?

If no, inconsistent, if yes then fair enough your consistent but i have to disagree

Damn backroom does not show up in search results!!

https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showp...2&postcount=18 (from this link)
But I don't want a muslim president for the same reason I don't want a nazi president

So simply being a muslim is the equivelent of being a nazi?!
and you see nothing wrong with this statement ?!

What if i said i didn't want a white president for the same reason i don't want a nazi president

Hell whites have caused plenty of desruction, and contain the top 2 all time killers... Hitler and Stalin, so theres a good supporting argument there (like theres a good supporting argument about muslims to do with terrorism and sexism ect.) but no amount of supporting arguments change the fact that my statement about not wanting a white president for same reason i don't want a nazi president is a racist statement...

do you see my statement about a white president as racist ?

I will point out that you did say later in the post that most muslims are good, so fair play there...

**Fragony** · 11-06-2008, 15:47

Yeah so? I thought we had already established that there is a certain degree sexual inequality and suspicion in the muslim faith? Am I making that up?

And if I say that I don't want a muslim president for the same reason I don't want a nazi president, ok I can understand the confusion should have added communist as well. I hate totalitarism,

**LittleGrizzly** · 11-06-2008, 16:08

I thought we had already established that there is a certain degree sexual inequality and suspicion in the muslim faith?

Ok firstly not sure what you mean by suspicion, but yes there is sexual inequality in most muslim societys, and there is sexual inequality in the islamic religion but there is in christianity as well, and i assume you wouldn't not vote for a christian for this reason, so it must be to do with muslim societys right ?

there is a certain degree of racism in america, would that stop you from ever voting for an american ?
there is a certain degree of slaughtering innocents, sexism, racism and ignorance in the land dominated by blacks (africa) would that stop you voting for a black man ?

The fact that theres sexual inequality is most muslim states is no reason to generalise muslims... theres sexual ineqaulity and lots of other bad things in most backward states

Ok serious question now, not just trying to catch you out but im genuinely curious...

Lets go back sometime to when pretty much the whole world was sexist and had plenty of other problems...

Hypothetically there is some muslim state which is like our modern day democracys in the west, a muslim voter is having a discussion with his friend and states "i would never vote for a christian" (because of all the backwards christian states and christian individuals he is assuming all christians are about sexual inequality ect.) would his statement be a fair one, or would it be an unfair generalisation of christians ?

**Fragony** · 11-06-2008, 16:25

The fact that theres sexual inequality is most muslim states is no reason to generalise muslims... theres sexual ineqaulity and lots of other bad things in most backward states

It's not a generalisation it's an observation, if it is what it is what's your problem.

**LittleGrizzly** · 11-06-2008, 16:56

It's not a generalisation it's an observation, if it is what it is what's your problem.

Look basically you stated you would not vote for a muslim president, when asked why you put it down to sexual inequality in muslim countrys, i can only put this down to a few things...

1) because some muslims don't believe in sexual eqaulity none of them do, which is a generalisation

2) you refuse to vote for someone who believes in the same religion that people who believe in sexual eqaulity believe in, which isn't true because im sure you would vote for a christian candidate

I may have got confused, you gave totalarinism as a reason as well, that actually fits the examples even better, and is so obviously rubbish, look at turkey

1) because muslim countrys are mostly ruled by totalitarians all muslims must be totalitarian, generalisation

2) because muslim countrys are mostly ruled by totalitarians all muslims must have totalitarian tendancys, generalisation

3) you refuse to vote for someone who shares a religion with people who are totalitarians, well thats simply not true as you would vote for a christian and there are christians who are totalitarian...

So basically unless there is some other meaning (or you didn't now christians were totalitarian as well) your statement is a generalisation

and what about my hypothetical question... i really am curious....

Hypothetically there is some muslim state which is like our modern day democracys in the west, a muslim voter is having a discussion with his friend and states "i would never vote for a christian" (because of all the backwards christian states and christian individuals he is assuming all christians are about sexual inequality and totalitarianism ect.) would his statement be a fair one, or would it be an unfair generalisation of christians ?