Punic War vs the Jugurthine War

[General Appo]

of course carthage could have beat rome, we've seen that in the second punic war.

Excuse me? How does the Second Punic War, a war where the Romans beat the Carthaginians, prove that the Carthaginians could beat the Romans?
You might argue that Carthage had won had the Carthaginian Senate offered greater support (doubtful) but in no way is this proven. Besides, the senate of Carthage was like that, to say that Carthage would rightfully have won without its unwillingness to support Hannibal is like saying that the Gauls would have won if it wasn´t for Rome´s professional legionnaries.
It´s true, but hardly a valid point.

Edit: You know what, lets just skip having this discussion. Until Carthage beats Rome in a war, there´s no proof that Carthage could feasibly beat Rome in a war. There´s a possibilty they could have, yes, but to say as you did in your qouted post...well, as the EB team say whenever someone brings forth a theory: Show me the evidence.