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    Default Re: Photoshopping in Screenshot Competitions

    i still don't see the problem when posting the edited "artwort" AND the original ...

    there you have the pic for the gallery AND the nice pictures people like to look at.

    theres something for every taste, why restrict it
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    Quote Originally Posted by SwissBarbar View Post
    i still don't see the problem when posting the edited "artwort" AND the original ...

    there you have the pic for the gallery AND the nice pictures people like to look at.

    theres something for every taste, why restrict it
    The only objection I could see with that compromise (and the reason I suggested staggered PS/screenshot contests) is that people who have no desire/time/ability to edit their otherwise lovely screenshot would be at a natural disadvantage in the contest. This would, naturally, deter some or most of them. Viz. penguinking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwissBarbar View Post
    i still don't see the problem when posting the edited "artwort" AND the original ...

    there you have the pic for the gallery AND the nice pictures people like to look at.

    theres something for every taste, why restrict it
    Because the heavily edited photos wouldn't go up on the website so what is the point besides bragging what you can do with some filters and mouse clicks?

    Those who want can certainly post both an edited and unedited version, but it shouldn't then count toward the competition.

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    Default Re: Photoshopping in Screenshot Competitions

    Well, I voted that any photo edits should be allowed.

    The lack of image-editing programs should not be an excuse, since there is plenty of free ones out there, such as GIMP, which is what I have.

    I would have voted for "slight editing" but it is really difficult to put a line between "heavy" and "slight" editing. If this was not too much, we should have two screenshot competitions in every month's competition, which is what Gleemonex said if I am not mistaken. One will be a competition for "pure" screenshots with absolutely no editing and another with whatever editing one would like, maybe even on the same thread. So we will have people submit all kinds of screenshots, but the two categories cannot compete with each other.

    As for myself, I am a proponent of the edited screenshots, as they look much better, but those editited "screenshots" are not really "screenshots", but works of art in my opinion. Because of this we should definitely have two competitions: one for "screenshots" and one for "pictures". We could also have an "artwork" competition where you draw something yourself, but I doubt there will be enough people willing to participate.
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    Default Re: Photoshopping in Screenshot Competitions

    in my opinion the poll shoud be "editing: yes or no"

    at the moment it looks like most of the voters pledge for not-editig, but the "yes"-part is splitted.


    its 41% contra and 59% pro editing (no matter if heavy or not).


    if the majority is pro editing, then we can vote if any kind of editing or just slight editing should be allowed.


    we could make an artwort competition besides the screenshot competition.

    and on the homepage there is a "artwork gallery" not only a screenshot gallery.

    https://www.europabarbarorum.com/gallery_artwork.html
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    Default Re: Photoshopping in Screenshot Competitions

    A cut to the quick

    Question please, what is the primary purpose of the EB Screenshot Competition; to provide an artistic outlet or technical display of the game’s quality? If it’s the latter the choice is clear, and the other can be used by individuals to illustrate AARs, if they were so inclined. If the completion leans towards the aesthetic, then that’s more of a sticky wicket.

    Indeed, the purpose of the competition defines the future course of action. Therefore, the question is; will this poll serve to reaffirm or redefine the purpose of the EB Screenshot Competition?


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    Default AW: Photoshopping in Screenshot Competitions

    I'm against editing, except chosing a part of the screen to be invisible (in most cases that means cropping out the UI).

    The purpose of the screenshot competition is to provide the EB website with screenshots that are very nice and give a good image of what EB is capable of. I think that's the reason why two of my screens are there, although I've only won once: I never edit my screenshots.

    Slight editing puts the non-editers to a disadvantage. I have already a lot of work to do, and have a lot of screenies, and I just don't want to spare time for editing. "There are free programs so everybody can do it" is no valid point. You cannot force the use of photoshop-programs to everybody or exclude them from the competition. This would be totally counterproductive, since the purpose of the screenshot competition is, again, to show what EB is capable of.

    In many cases, in the current state of the screenshot competition, the picture with the best artwork wins. Other pictures without artwork don't although they might feature a better frame or better behaving soldiers or a better atmosphere etc. If people were allowed to enter their edited picture, and their unedited screeny in "hidden", it would again not serve the purpose of the EB screenshot competition, because it would produce sub-optimal screenshots for the EB website.

    My proposal is to prohibit any screenshot editing besides cropping out parts of the screen. People should feel free to post their edited artworks in "hidden"-brackets, but it should be imperative that only the unedited screen enters the competition and thus perhaps the EB website.

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    Default Re: Photoshopping in Screenshot Competitions

    Editting allowed but with exception (like posting original alongside editted version)

    That's my vote.

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    Default Re: Photoshopping in Screenshot Competitions

    I don`t beliee the current editing is "light", not by any measure. If this editing would be light, then what editing would be heavy? Removing the solider cloths and giving them a red cloack and just a lincloth, and make them look all like the 300 spartans?

    I vote "No editing" whatsoever, not because I`m against light editing, but because ppl try to pass heavy photoshopping as light editing.

    You don`t need anything more sophisticated than MS paint to remove the UI, and that`s what light editing sould mean.


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