Archived campaign: Spain (defensive)

[William the Silent]

interesting.

i was just messin around tho and was able to beat the moors way out of the peninsula+, as well as the Portuguese, and aragonese within 20 turns or so.
as long as you do nothing too stupid people shouldnt lose to the moors.

I've never tried to play it fast with Spain on Expert like you. My guess is that you will not last very long, but maybe it is possible. It is not my style, so I never tried.

You cannot built many units in 20 turns and you need them to prevent rebellions from happening in taken terratory. Also if you built army your income will lack. I don't know how you do it. Maybe I'm wrong.

Make a little report of your progress with pictures (F2).

Maybe Axalon has experience with your style and what happens .

[cambovenzi]

I've never tried to play it fast with Spain on Expert like you. My guess is that you will not last very long, but maybe it is possible. It is not my style, so I never tried.

You cannot built many units in 20 turns and you need them to prevent rebellions from happening in taken terratory. Also if you built army your income will lack. I don't know how you do it. Maybe I'm wrong.

Make a little report of your progress with pictures (F2).

Maybe Axalon has experience with your style and what happens .

i just built a fort or two in other provinces.
really the standing cost of units is nothing compared to vanilla MTW, so spamming out peasants, and higher quality troops from castille isnt that hard to do. obviously its not a straight blitz, b/c you need lots of troops, but its much, much more aggressive then your strategy, and what axalon's little guide thing says.
also once you take a few provinces you build up income, and its even easier to build 3-4 troops a turn.
i will probably restart and try a little bit harder, and come back with more detailed results/explanation.

not trying to belittle your strategy, im sure building things up works great.
i just wanted to try out and show that its not the only thing you can do and still be effective, or dominant.

[William the Silent]

i just built a fort or two in other provinces.
really the standing cost of units is nothing compared to vanilla MTW, so spamming out peasants, and higher quality troops from castille isnt that hard to do. obviously its not a straight blitz, b/c you need lots of troops, but its much, much more aggressive then your strategy, and what axalon's little guide thing says.
also once you take a few provinces you build up income, and its even easier to build 3-4 troops a turn.
i will probably restart and try a little bit harder, and come back with more detailed results/explanation.

not trying to belittle your strategy, im sure building things up works great.
i just wanted to try out and show that its not the only thing you can do and still be effective, or dominant.

If your strategy works: Do it!

You have to play the game you like it. Not my way neccesary.
I'm kind of (waaay) slow the way I do it, but it'll help me later. Some people will hate micro management .

I made my conquest story to challenge myself and to see how hard it is on EXPERT and too make it visible.

If you have a weak province you will be attacked. That's what these stinkin' Aragonese did to me when I was taking Cordoba. It fired back at them, because they got rebellion, because the moved too many troops in the attack . That story will come later.

Have fun!

[cambovenzi]

If your strategy works: Do it!

You have to play the game you like it. Not my way neccesary.
I'm kind of (waaay) slow the way I do it, but it'll help me later. Some people will hate micro management .

I made my conquest story to challenge myself and to see how hard it is on EXPERT and too make it visible.

If you have a weak province you will be attacked. That's what these stinkin' Aragonese did to me when I was taking Cordoba. It fired back at them, because they got rebellion, because the moved too many troops in the attack . That story will come later.

Have fun!

thanks,
i gave it a shot.
made my own thread, as i didn't want to get yours all messy with my stuff.

[Axalon]

So far so good... What happened next???

[William the Silent]

Where were we? Oh yeh, Moors out of Peninsula.
782 AD.
(1) I order my fleets to destroy all Moor fleets.
(2) Next turn I invade Cordoba. Moors just had moved out some troops somewhere else so that helped.
(3) Moors flee to Portugal and I have 1 year siege in Cordoba.


787 AD.
(1) I have taken Cordoba and start building more units to take Granada and Portugal. But I had concentreted all my units in Cordoba so Aragon invaded Castille. I moved a stack of me in there and they retreated.
(2) Because of that attack the Aragonese get rebellion in Valencia. And I loose lots of my allies.
(3) In 791 Aragonese offer peace and I take that.


794 AD.
Because of the threat I devide my stacks over Cordoba and Castille. That leads to an attack from the Moors out of Portugal. Finally a battle.


(1) I find myself in front of a farm and decide to move back up the hill to give the enemy a long tireing walk.
(2) I line my spearman up in the front (strongest in the middle). Behind that feudal archers (long range). Then line of sword units. Behind that the cavalry.
(3) Enemy approaching from my view.
(4,5) Enemy approaches with sword and spear in front and militia in the second line.


(1) I let my archers concentrate on the enemy general.
(2) His unit gets smaller and smaller.
(3) Until he becomes casualty himself.


(1) Now the enemy is tired and demoralised. So it's time to attack.
(2) First with my left flank to make room for my cavalry.
(3) Then with my right flank.
(4) The cavalry starts moving in the flank/back of the enemy. The enemy wavers.
(5) Cavalry attacks the now retreating enemy.


(1) Now the enemy is in full retreat. The slaughter fest can begin.
(2) All the infantry is ordered to chase'm down.
(3) With my cavalry I try to pin good units from the enemy so my infantry can destroy them.
(4) The casualty sheet. You learn what each unit can kill. The archers can kill: 162 (remember that).
(5) My new position on the campaign map.


794 AD AD.
Plans for the future:
- destroy rest of the Moors in Spain
- eliminate the Aragonese
- take rich Marokko
- built, built, built and take, take, take.

But first I'll have to find time to play again.

[William the Silent]

I'm at the last part of my campaign. Taking Portugal and then Granada. Defeating the Aragonese will not be a problem after that. Since the mod is going to be "fixed" I think it is not usefull to continue after this part.

795 AD.
(1) Time to invade Portugal.
(2) The opposing forces. Should be easy.


(1) Approaching the enemy: spear in front, archers in second, sword in third and cavalry in rear.
(2) The archers start showering the enemy while the rest keeps moving forward.
(3) Left flank attacks.
(4) Support from cavalry there.
(5) Right flank lines up against extended enemy.


(1) Enemy general joins the battle with his camel unit, while the first Moors rout.
(2) Moors try to outflank my right flank, but my spanish swordman take them in the flank.
(3) Enemy general is killed while my cavalry starts to outflank the left flank of the Moors.
(4) They take the enemy in the back.
(5) Moors flee and the cavalry drives them off the field.


(1) There is only one stubbern unit of Moors left. My general gives the final blow.
(2) The casualty chart. Archers kill 198.
(3) What's left is a short siege.


(1) Right after taking Portugal the French start a crusade for Granada.
(2) This means I have to hurry to be there first.
(3) I have to move my army out of Castille otherwise the crusade will take part of my army.
(4) I end up being there first and the crusader army disappears.
(5) Granada is mine so my backdoor is save.


803 AD.
The end of the Conquest for Spain. The Aragonese will be eliminated soon. Because of my navy all around the Peninsula I do not have to worry about invasions. I can concentrate all my armies north. Looks like the Saracens are going to be big trouble from the South.

This is the way to take Spain, the slooow way.

Soon I will rule the World.

The End.

By williamthesilent at 2008-08-11