Gay Rights are Not Civil Rights

**CountArach** · 11-11-2008, 04:14

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

Thats what these kind of rulings lead to dundee. You either go through the legislature or you open a pandoras box quit crying and write a bill like everyone else before you.

Then go through the Legislature. All I am saying is this - if the Legislature isn't going to ensure a basic human right is met, the other branches have to do it. That is the nature of checks and balances.

**GeneralHankerchief** · 11-11-2008, 04:35

Originally Posted by CountArach

Then go through the Legislature. All I am saying is this - if the Legislature isn't going to ensure a basic human right is met, the other branches have to do it. That is the nature of checks and balances.

If we openly disregard the Constitution and the procedures it sets out, it had better not be done on an issue as trivial as gay marriage. The legislature makes the laws, period. I'm not about to stake the very legal foundation this country is built upon unless the issue in question is incredibly dire. Gay marriage does not qualify.

Living in the US, it's not as easy for me to disregard the Constitution when it's convenient as it is for somebody across the globe.

**CountArach** · 11-11-2008, 04:38

Originally Posted by GeneralHankerchief

If we openly disregard the Constitution and the procedures it sets out, it had better not be done on an issue as trivial as gay marriage. The legislature makes the laws, period. I'm not about to stake the very legal foundation this country is built upon unless the issue in question is incredibly dire. Gay marriage does not qualify.

Then we have different priorities. I don't see the point in having a Constitution and a Bill of Rights when these will not guarantee basic human rights for everyone.

**Strike For The South** · 11-11-2008, 04:46

Originally Posted by CountArach

Then we have different priorities. I don't see the point in having a Constitution and a Bill of Rights when these will not guarantee basic human rights for everyone.

You act like we keep gays in a hole. Its these kinds of outrageous accusations that set the movement back.

**CountArach** · 11-11-2008, 04:55

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

You act like we keep gays in a hole. Its these kinds of outrageous accusations that set the movement back.

DOMA basically relegated them to living in a hole.

And don't accuse me of setting the LGBT movement back - I'm not doing that and you damn well know it.

**Strike For The South** · 11-11-2008, 05:04

Originally Posted by CountArach

DOMA basically relegated them to living in a hole.

And don't accuse me of setting the LGBT movement back - I'm not doing that and you damn well know it.

You mean a law? How uncivilized of those mongrels. Although I will admit the fact that the libertarian candidate authored it just goes to show how dumb the party can be, oh well

Oh Im not accusing you, I doubt you have much clout in the political circles here. But your use of vitriolic rhetoric is the same used by people who do and let me tell you right now that turns people off. ESP when many people cant be bothered with what in all honesty is a label and nothing more. Choose your words wisely.

**CountArach** · 11-11-2008, 05:05

Originally Posted by Strike For The South

You mean a law? How uncivilized of those mongrels. Although I will admit the fact that the libertarian candidate authored it just goes to show how dumb the party can be, oh well

Oh Im not accusing you, I doubt you have much clout in the political circles here. But your use of vitriolic rhetoric is the same used by people who do and let me tell you right now that turns people off. ESP when many people cant be bothered with what in all honesty is a label and nothing more. Choose your words wisely.

Oh? Where?