Gay Rights are Not Civil Rights

[Xiahou]

That's why none of you can ever answer the most basic question at the heart of the issue: How would it possibly hurt you to let two men or two women join together in love and partnership, and enjoy the same protections, benefits, and privileges under the law as a hetero couple enjoys?

So that's the standard then? I thought it was supposed to be "How will it help me?" for a person to actively support something.

[CrossLOPER]

So that's the standard then? I thought it was supposed to be "How will it help me?" for a person to actively support something.

Clearly, anyone who thinks gay marriage is OK likes it up the bum.

[Kralizec]

So once again I must ask what right is being denied to a gay individual?

A gay man has the same right to marry a woman that every man does. He isn't going to be interested in using this right however. To use my previous analogy: if it became illegal to hold a sabbath on any day but sunday for everybody regardless of religious affiliation, a jew would feel discriminated against despite the fact that he has the same rights as everybody else. (and to top it: it's much, much easier to argue that religion is a choice)

A marriage is a legal sanction of a relationship that gives you and your partner certain rights and duties towards eachother and has numerous advantages, fiscal and otherwise, that aren't as easy to acquire without it, or even impossible. Instead of saying that gay people are oppressed, it would be more correct to say that the heterosexual majority gets preferential treatment.

That said I agree with Strike that the judiciary ought to know its place.

[Goofball]

So that's the standard then? I thought it was supposed to be "How will it help me?" for a person to actively support something.

I'm glad I'm not a charity trying to collect in your neighborhood.