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    Default Re: The Pornification of a Generation

    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    yep, because that is what our Corporate Ovrelords tell us.
    So you're not a free-will man, or a pre-determination man, but a believer in fate chosen by corporations? A corporationist?

    Seriously, man, everyone's got free will. Yea, EA gets some big ad campaigns going. But that doesn't subvert free will. It just means the defenders of good gaming and good games have to make their case more forcefully. Similarly, parents shouldn't buy this stuff for their kids.

    In response to the OP, I don't see capitalism as the problem, but the constant loosening of moral standards. A lot of it has gone hand-in-hand with the rise socially liberal views. Selling these products is the reaction to that, not the cause.

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    i agree that kids younger than 11 shouldnt be exposed to sexual stuff, but that's only because they are likely to not understand what it is, and if they are exposed to that kind of thing, it may mess with their head because it would seem strange to them and/or disgusting and would not have a good impact.

    On the other hand, i do not agree with parents who try to shield their kids from sex as if it's such a horrible thing, like telling them babies come from the "stork" and such nonsense like that. My parents told me the truth about procreation the first time i asked them about it, when i was like 4 or 5. Of course this was done in the least graphic way possible without discarding the main idea of it, but my point is that it didnt cause any problems in my life or anything, and i didnt have to deal with eventually learning that my parents were lying to me the whole time.

    I think that actually, once kids hit puberty, It's a good thing they are exposed to sex. Take for example, the idea that Catholic School Girls are actually usually easy to hook up with (i know this from experience... a bunch of my friends went with girls who went to an all-girl catholic school.) They dont get to see boys the entire day, most likely the school ONLY teaches abstinence, and their parents probably dont want them to have sex until they get married. This makes Sex into such a "forbidden fruit" type of thing, that they end up having sex more often than most girls their age would.

    The easiest way to make someone do something, is to tell them they are not allowed to.

    You know what's funny? My friend named Henry (who coincidentally was my Wing Chun Kung Fu teacher's son) works at an all girl catholic school, and he was getting off right after lunch that day. His friends came to pick him up, and they sat down for lunch in the cafeteria. As soon as they sat down to eat, they heard a bunch of girls say "BOYS?!?" And then they all started laughing.

    The point here is that it's not such a bad thing if kids like 13 and up, watch porn, or engage in safe sex practices, because, 1. They will know how to be safe, use condoms, birth control pills, etc. and 2. Sex wont be such a big deal so most likely they wont do it as much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    So you're not a free-will man, or a pre-determination man, but a believer in fate chosen by corporations? A corporationist?

    Seriously, man, everyone's got free will. Yea, EA gets some big ad campaigns going. But that doesn't subvert free will. It just means the defenders of good gaming and good games have to make their case more forcefully. Similarly, parents shouldn't buy this stuff for their kids.

    In response to the OP, I don't see capitalism as the problem, but the constant loosening of moral standards. A lot of it has gone hand-in-hand with the rise socially liberal views. Selling these products is the reaction to that, not the cause.

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    I do believe that Corporations determine some of our future and our life that we can't even conceive, in fact in ways that Corporations don't even intend. However, my Corporate Overlord comment was a bit tongue-in-cheek... I guess the sort of thing people would expect me to say

    The problem with large game corporations such as EA is that their relatively high income (compared to, say, Independent developers) means that they can throttle all the other competition regardless of how good their games are. Indie developers also have no outlet to "make their case more forcefully". How would you suggest they do that? Internet forums and free media? That is only ever going to reach a very limited audience and most of those it reaches will not be able to buy it because these Indie developers must either:
    1) Only sell online OR
    2) Price their games higher to make up for the fact they only have a small, dedicated, following.

    That is where I believe the free-market has failed.
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