New factions?

[Cyrus]

sorry i forgot to quote foytaz's post ,that's what i was referring to

[Ibrahim]

Yes that i think is a good idea.cicil wars however would require some stuff like non playable factions or something(and in the faq it says there will be no such thing) but im shure there can be a way to arrange it,maybe with a huge civil revolt of (like for caesar's civil war) all greece,and some italy settelments become rebel. just an idea of course.
ps foytaz if you dont mind answering where are u from?

no, I meant a playable faction.

[Cyrus]

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What?
i said i was talking about foytaz s post about civil wars.

[Ibrahim]

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What?
i said i was talking about foytaz s post about civil wars.

my bad. i was confused here.

[Foytaz]

ps foytaz if you dont mind answering where are u from?

Poland>Upper Silesia>Tychy

[Majd il-Romani]

Yes that i think is a good idea.cicil wars however would require some stuff like non playable factions or something(and in the faq it says there will be no such thing) but im shure there can be a way to arrange it,maybe with a huge civil revolt of (like for caesar's civil war) all greece,and some italy settelments become rebel. just an idea of course.
ps foytaz if you dont mind answering where are u from?

No it won't. In M2 generals with low loyalty became rebel generals, so even if a giant civil war won't be very possible you could still have the various rogue generals and infighting and etc. included without even having to add to the game at all!

[Foytaz]

Rebellion\civil war should work as counter-faction and player'd possess the possibility to choose the side as it was in MTW (back the rebels or not). Hidden court intrigues were so common at that times and in huge empires as Ptolemaics and Seleucids they were 'daily basis' routines.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Does anyone have any new ideas since stele 7 has come out?

[General Appo]

Yeah, I suspect the Ptolemaioi might be a faction in this version as well. Quite a dissapointment if you ask me.

[Celtic_Punk]

We need another celtic faction. perhaps gallic? or maybe Goidllic or Caledonia?

[Majd il-Romani]

I know that Foot will be pissed and probably trample me, but the laugh is worth the risk...

New Factional Ideas:
Aztec Empire - would populate the American map a bit more, last time I played EB, there were practically NO factions there!
Samurai Japan - I was SO surprised that this wasn't in EB1. It was probably left out so the Saba could be in
Zulu Nation - Come on, Shaka was just rising at this time!
The USSR - The NE corner of the Vanilla EB map has like 1 faction, why not put this in

[Foot]

Wow! My life must be so dull, but I just cannot see the humour in that from any point of view.

Foot

[Celtic_Punk]

Soooo foot, what are the confirmed factions?... if rome is gunna be in this time round... i just might have to kill you.

So yeah which are the NEW confirmed factions?

[bovi]

So yeah which are the NEW confirmed factions?

Pergamon.

[eddy_purpus]

I know that Foot will be pissed and probably trample me, but the laugh is worth the risk...

New Factional Ideas:
Aztec Empire - would populate the American map a bit more, last time I played EB, there were practically NO factions there!
Samurai Japan - I was SO surprised that this wasn't in EB1. It was probably left out so the Saba could be in
Zulu Nation - Come on, Shaka was just rising at this time!
The USSR - The NE corner of the Vanilla EB map has like 1 faction, why not put this in

HAHAHAHHA
ARE YOU MAKING FUN OF FOOT ?
hahahahahha
what a dumb proposition dude...
really



REALLY !

[Hax]

Dude. Relax.

[Styles]

Kimbrii
Boii
Bastarnae
Skirii

[Celtic_Punk]

Mmm Pergamon would be a good addition. help populate asia minor. but africa is a little lonely..

Is there enough evidence to support a Numidian faction?

[Majd il-Romani]

Is there enough evidence to support a Numidian faction?

I dunno, not enough evidence I think, they werent mentioned at all in any Roman, Greek, or Carthaginian texts, and the only evidence we have is Vanilla RTW

[General Appo]

I will bet you anything (except EB of course) that at least one Numidian faction will be in EB2.

[zurab]

Kartli ( Caucasian Iberia)




:)

[zurab]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Iberia

Kartli ( Caucasian Iberia-Georgia)

Roman period

This close association with Armenia brought upon the country an invasion (65 BC) by the Roman general Pompey, who was then at war with Mithradates VI of Pontus, and Armenia; but Rome did not establish her power permanently over Iberia. Nineteen years later, the Romans again marched (36 BC) on Iberia forcing King Pharnavaz II to join their campaign against Albania.

While another Georgian kingdom of Colchis was administered as a Roman province, Iberia freely accepted the Roman Imperial protection. A stone inscription discovered at Mtskheta speaks of the first-century ruler Mihdrat I (AD 58-106) as "the friend of the Caesars" and the king "of the Roman-loving Iberians." Emperor Vespasian fortified the ancient Mtskheta site of Arzami for the Iberian kings in 75 AD.

The next two centuries saw a continuation of Roman influence over the area, but by the reign of King Pharsman II (116 – 132) Iberia had regained some of its former power. Relations between the Roman Emperor Hadrian and Pharsman II were strained, though Hadrian is said to have sought to appease Pharsman. However, it was only under Hadrian's successor Antoninus Pius that relations improved to the extent that Pharsman is said to have even visited Rome, where Dio Cassius reports that a statue was erected in his honor and that rights to sacrifice were given. The period brought a major change to the political status of Iberia with Rome recognizing them as an ally, rather than their former status as a subject state, a political situation which remained the same, even during the Empire's hostilities with the Parthians.

[Foytaz]

TBH I can't see any good reason for adding another hellenic faction as Pergamon f.e. They were just bystanders with no real influence and power.
As for 'barbaric' Europe maybe one more germanic tribe to counterbalance Sweboz would be a good move.
Africa belongs to Ptolemaoi and Karthadast so faction like Numidia sounds reasonably to mess up in there.
In the far east, I don't know?, Pahlava, Bactria and Saka Rauka are enough for me.

I'd be glad to see more diversification of already existed factions instead new ones....

but the last word belongs to EB Team

[Cyrus]

What about the basc people,they were fierce warriors and they expanded a lot historically,also they would balance off iberia wich is always either carthaginian or lusotann.

[Phalanx300]

TBH I can't see any good reason for adding another hellenic faction as Pergamon f.e. They were just bystanders with no real influence and power.
As for 'barbaric' Europe maybe one more germanic tribe to counterbalance Sweboz would be a good move.
Africa belongs to Ptolemaoi and Karthadast so faction like Numidia sounds reasonably to mess up in there.
In the far east, I don't know?, Pahlava, Bactria and Saka Rauka are enough for me.

I'd be glad to see more diversification of already existed factions instead new ones....

but the last word belongs to EB Team

Why another Hellenic faction? Well fact is that they had quite some power. We might even see more Hellenic factions for EB in future (hopefully: Syracuse, Massilia, Kyrene, Bosporos and some others )

[Foytaz]

Why another Hellenic faction? Well fact is that they had quite some power. We might even see more Hellenic factions for EB in future (hopefully: Syracuse, Massilia, Kyrene, Bosporos and some others )

I hope EB Team won't implement them as they were nothing more than pawns for Makedonia, Epeiros, Arche, Ptolemaoi and latter on SPQR. Adding those will only slow down the game and make unneccesary boring intervals due the campaign.

[Phalanx300]

I hope EB Team won't implement them as they were nothing more than pawns for Makedonia, Epeiros, Arche, Ptolemaoi and latter on SPQR. Adding those will only slow down the game and make unneccesary boring intervals due the campaign.

Pawns? You aren't serious are you?

Rome is the best example of a city state, look at what it accomplished. .




(I like the org smilies )

[Cataphract_Of_The_City]

I hope EB Team won't implement them as they were nothing more than pawns for Makedonia, Epeiros, Arche, Ptolemaoi and latter on SPQR. Adding those will only slow down the game and make unneccesary boring intervals due the campaign.

That's ridiculous. If anything Pergamon rulers used the infighting between these powers to keep themselves independent for almost 150 after the start of EB's timeline. This was a major achievement considering that the area was coveted by all these powers. If anything, all these powers were used by Pergamon so it could stay independent.

[Foytaz]

That's ridiculous. If anything Pergamon rulers used the infighting between these powers to keep themselves independent for almost 150 after the start of EB's timeline. This was a major achievement considering that the area was coveted by all these powers. If anything, all these powers were used by Pergamon so it could stay independent.

and that's what I'm reffering to!!!. All they've achieved is petty survival between surrounding muscle-states. They're pawns or to be more polite client-states and you'd get used to aknowledge that fact!!!.
Pergamon biggest achievement was causing war between SPQR vs Arche, despite the fact the war was inevitable anyways.

[zurab]

imo NEW 10 factions :)

1. Bosporus Kingdom
2. Kartli ( Caucasian Iberia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Iberia
3. Numidia
4. Tyre ( or confederation of Phynikian states-ally to Carthage)
5. Caucasian Albania or Arran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Albania)
6. Pergamon
7. Maesia or maybe Triballi?
8. One more iberian tribe in Spain
9. One more germanic tribe
10. One more celtic tribe