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    TBH I can't see any good reason for adding another hellenic faction as Pergamon f.e. They were just bystanders with no real influence and power.
    As for 'barbaric' Europe maybe one more germanic tribe to counterbalance Sweboz would be a good move.
    Africa belongs to Ptolemaoi and Karthadast so faction like Numidia sounds reasonably to mess up in there.
    In the far east, I don't know?, Pahlava, Bactria and Saka Rauka are enough for me.

    I'd be glad to see more diversification of already existed factions instead new ones....

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    What about the basc people,they were fierce warriors and they expanded a lot historically,also they would balance off iberia wich is always either carthaginian or lusotann.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Foytaz View Post
    TBH I can't see any good reason for adding another hellenic faction as Pergamon f.e. They were just bystanders with no real influence and power.
    As for 'barbaric' Europe maybe one more germanic tribe to counterbalance Sweboz would be a good move.
    Africa belongs to Ptolemaoi and Karthadast so faction like Numidia sounds reasonably to mess up in there.
    In the far east, I don't know?, Pahlava, Bactria and Saka Rauka are enough for me.

    I'd be glad to see more diversification of already existed factions instead new ones....

    but the last word belongs to EB Team


    Why another Hellenic faction? Well fact is that they had quite some power. We might even see more Hellenic factions for EB in future (hopefully: Syracuse, Massilia, Kyrene, Bosporos and some others )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phalanx300 View Post
    Why another Hellenic faction? Well fact is that they had quite some power. We might even see more Hellenic factions for EB in future (hopefully: Syracuse, Massilia, Kyrene, Bosporos and some others )
    I hope EB Team won't implement them as they were nothing more than pawns for Makedonia, Epeiros, Arche, Ptolemaoi and latter on SPQR. Adding those will only slow down the game and make unneccesary boring intervals due the campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foytaz View Post
    I hope EB Team won't implement them as they were nothing more than pawns for Makedonia, Epeiros, Arche, Ptolemaoi and latter on SPQR. Adding those will only slow down the game and make unneccesary boring intervals due the campaign.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Foytaz View Post
    I hope EB Team won't implement them as they were nothing more than pawns for Makedonia, Epeiros, Arche, Ptolemaoi and latter on SPQR. Adding those will only slow down the game and make unneccesary boring intervals due the campaign.
    That's ridiculous. If anything Pergamon rulers used the infighting between these powers to keep themselves independent for almost 150 after the start of EB's timeline. This was a major achievement considering that the area was coveted by all these powers. If anything, all these powers were used by Pergamon so it could stay independent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cataphract_Of_The_City View Post
    That's ridiculous. If anything Pergamon rulers used the infighting between these powers to keep themselves independent for almost 150 after the start of EB's timeline. This was a major achievement considering that the area was coveted by all these powers. If anything, all these powers were used by Pergamon so it could stay independent.
    and that's what I'm reffering to!!!. All they've achieved is petty survival between surrounding muscle-states. They're pawns or to be more polite client-states and you'd get used to aknowledge that fact!!!.
    Pergamon biggest achievement was causing war between SPQR vs Arche, despite the fact the war was inevitable anyways.
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    imo NEW 10 factions :)

    1. Bosporus Kingdom
    2. Kartli ( Caucasian Iberia) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Iberia
    3. Numidia
    4. Tyre ( or confederation of Phynikian states-ally to Carthage)
    5. Caucasian Albania or Arran (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Albania)
    6. Pergamon
    7. Maesia or maybe Triballi?
    8. One more iberian tribe in Spain
    9. One more germanic tribe
    10. One more celtic tribe



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    Quote Originally Posted by Foytaz View Post
    and that's what I'm reffering to!!!. All they've achieved is petty survival between surrounding muscle-states. They're pawns or to be more polite client-states and you'd get used to aknowledge that fact!!!.
    Pergamon biggest achievement was causing war between SPQR vs Arche, despite the fact the war was inevitable anyways.
    They did hold a fair amount of Asia Minor at one point, and IIRC some of Thrace too.
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    and that's what I'm reffering to!!!. All they've achieved is petty survival between surrounding muscle-states. They're pawns or to be more polite client-states and you'd get used to aknowledge that fact!!!.
    Yeah. Except the fact that they pretty much held all of Mikra Asia to the Taurus Mountains at one point. They were really just a pawn, you're right. I'm sure the EB team will have to delete Pergamon from the faction roster now. Your evidence is clearly overwhelming.
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