New factions?

[Viking_Wårlord]

"I would put the inclusion of another Celtic or Germanic faction over that of Bosphorus or Massalia. "

Why the hell do we need another Celtic faction?
There's already 4 of them!
And only 1 Germanic!

We should put 2 more Germanic factions, a Basque faction,a proto-Slavic one and ,if possible; a Jewish faction!

[Foot]

oh yes, thats right I forgot to answer you earlier.

In cases of emergency the druids would pick a king to face the problem, however in all other cases the Vergobret (in the case of the Aedui) or other leader of the magistrate would be picked by nobility. And as for only druids possessing any knowledge, what evidence do you have of this? Particularly as it was the celtic blacksmiths who renowned as the some of the greatest in the world, whose expertise equipped the romans.

You certainly won't be seeng a Basque or Proto-Slavic faction as we know nothing about these groups during our timeframe. As for a Jewish faction, they did not appear as an independent state until well into our timeframe, and were certainly not expansionistic once they became independent.

I must also ask you to remove the first signature pic you have. This one is reserved for members of the EB Team. The others are, of course, okay.

Foot

[Taliferno]

"I would put the inclusion of another Celtic or Germanic faction over that of Bosphorus or Massalia. "

Why the hell do we need another Celtic faction?
There's already 4 of them!
And only 1 Germanic!

We should put 2 more Germanic factions, a Basque faction,a proto-Slavic one and ,if possible; a Jewish faction!

What other two German tribes do we know enough about at EBs start date?

Which proto-Slavic tribe at the start date?

No independant Jewish faction existed at the start date. To include them they would need to be included as an emergant faction, which has already been ruled out a number of times on this thread, if you've read it.

[Sarcasm]

I like how he keeps saying "we".

[dromychaetes]

Hi, I'm kinda new here, I've had the patience to read only the firs page as everyone was arguing about a new "german" tribe, I saw someone tried to explain that there was not any germanic tribe then, cause "german" means in latin "twin" like in "twin brothers", the term used by the latins to define the 2 tribes in in Poland and East Germany today, I think the marcomanii and the teutons. so germanic people didn't even exist as an identity. Ok, now, about new factions, I don't know if anyone mentioned earlier, but I didn't see the Dacians in the first EB, instead of them where the thracians, who where not the same thing. So, if you want to be historical accurate the dacians where neighbors with the tracians in the south and in the west they had the Boii and Tauriscii, galic tribes. There where famous for their archers, for falx dacica and sica... but I think most of you know that. and Dromichaites was the dacian leader who defeated Lysimachus in cca. 280 B.C. so that would be a start.

thanks for reading and I hope I didn't repeat what someone else wrote earlier, I'll try to read the hole topic.

[Tellos Athenaios]

We do not have any 'Thracians' in EB. We do have the Getai, one of the many Thracian/Dacian tribes. It should perhaps be noted that what we call Getia Koile (with its provincial capital of famous Sarmiszegethusa) is better known as Dacia.

[dromychaetes]

So it will appear as the "Getai" wich is the greek name for the roman name "Dacia"?

[machinor]

AFAIK Latin for "twins" is "gemini" (like the star constellation) and not "german".

[Strategos Alexandros]

"I would put the inclusion of another Celtic or Germanic faction over that of Bosphorus or Massalia. "

Why the hell do we need another Celtic faction?
There's already 4 of them!
And only 1 Germanic!

We should put 2 more Germanic factions, a Basque faction,a proto-Slavic one and ,if possible; a Jewish faction!

There aren't 4 Celtic factions, there's 3. And Germanic factions are very difficult to research, although I would like another one.
Why not another Celtic faction anyway? Don't you think Galatia or the Brigantes would be fun?

[Styles]

Kimbern, Teutonen und Ambronen: Die Kimbern, Teutonen und Abronen waren germanische Völker, die ursprünglich in Jütland beheimatet waren. Gut 100 Jahre vor Christus begann ihre lange Reise. Immerwährende Kälte und Hunger waren der Grund, weshalb sie Jütland verließen, und nach Süden aufbrachen. Ihre Reise ging über Schlesien, Böhmen, Ungarn, Rumänien, Italien- rund 8000km legte der Treck in ca. 20 Jahren zurück. Sie lebten hauptsächlich von Fischfang und Überfällen. Wo sie auch verbeikamen hinterließen sie Angst und Schrecken.

"Es ist schlaff und dumm, sich mit Schweiss zu erarbeiten, was man sich mit Blut erkämpfen kann. Kimbern & Teutonen

Tacitus bezeichnete sie als "Tiere auf zwei Beinen". Bei Noricum (Noreia), besiegten sie 113 v. Chr. ein römisches Heer. Sie zogen dann westwärts über den Rhein nach Gallien und vernichteten, nachdem ihnen Rom die Bitte um Zuweisung von Land abgeschlagen hatte, weitere drei römische Heere (109, 107 und 105 v. Chr.) und trafen erst bei den Keltiberern auf Widerstand. Sie vereinigten sich im Gebiet der unteren Seine mit den Helvetiern und drangen auf verschiedenen Wegen in Italien ein, wo Rom ihnen das Gebiet nördlich des Po überlassen musste. Am Ziel ihrer Reise und Träume angelangt, wurden sie 102 v. Chr. von Marius bei Aquae Sextiae und Vercellae (Norditalien) vernichtet.

Well its german could someone translate it?

[Ibn-Khaldun]

Kimber, Teuton and Ambronen: The Kimber, Teuton and Abronen were Germanic peoples who originally were home in Jutland. More than 100 years before Christ began their long journey. Perpetual cold and hunger were the reason why they left Jutland, and set out to the south. Their journey was over Silesia, Bohemia, Hungary, Romania, Italy, about 8000 km, the trek in about 20 years ago. They lived mainly by fishing and robberies. Where she also verbeikamen they left behind fear and horror.

"It is limp and stupid, with sweat to develop what we can fight with blood. Kimber & Teuton

Tacitus described them as "animals on two legs." When Noricum (Noreia), they defeated 113 BC, a Roman army. They then moved westward across the Rhine after Gaul and destroyed after Rome asking them to allocate land amputated had another three Roman armies (109, 107 and 105 BC) and met only when the Keltiberern opposition. They united in the territory of the lower Seine with the Helvetii and penetrated in various ways in Italy, where Rome them the area north of the Po had to leave. At the destination of their journey and dreams arrived, they were 102 BC by Marius at Aquae Sextiae and Vercellae (northern Italy) destroyed.


Thank the Google translate!

[Hax]

Where she also verbeikamen they left behind fear and horror.

Where they went, they left horror and fear behind.

[dromychaetes]

This is a thread for new factions, but if you want, we can open a new thread where we can discuss about these people... From what it says above, they where living in Denmark today, and moved southward to a kinder climate. but is much to talk, cause my opinion is that the germanic people didn't even exist back then, in ancient times, and about the early medieval germans... I don't have enough documentation to have an opinion, except perhaps the ghots, who where actualy getai or dacians, living in S-E side of Romania today. Anyway, the date they start moving is 160 years later from 272, when the game starts. It would be just a discution for our own knowledge.

[dromychaetes]

ok... I haven't played EB1 for a year now and I had to reinstall it to remember. I would have to say that the troop tree is too complicated, and that dacians never had phalanx or skirmishers like you put it, with pilla (javelins). If I remember correct they had mostly light cavalry, shields and spears, great archers, good infantry, especially the so called "falxmen" who used Falx Dacica, but the normal infantry mostly used "Sica" a smaller falx. The falx had about 180 cm, and about 90-100 cm of that was the blade, curved and with small channels so that the blood can flow and the blade will remain clean. The sica had only about 60-80 cm, and was used as a normal one handed sword. it was also curved like a sicle. So, in my opinion, skirmishers would have to go, to remain plain infantry, falxmen, maybe an aditional infantry type with sica, archers, maybe 2 types, and cavalry, light, heavy (Tarabostes - they where the dacian nobles) and some horse archers, because the influence of the scythians was present at the time. I'll play it a bit tonight to look around the map and see about the cities, didn't have to much time last night.