The Prometheus: Large Mafia Game [Concluded]

[Mithrandir]

ps: sorry for my bad vote last round.

But if you're dead, you're not supposed to be able to finger anyone :P

[Crazed Rabbit]

I believe Twilight Blade has not posted a single time in this thread yet, even despite post #360.

Our records indicate otherwise.

CR

[Seamus Fermanagh]

'blade has posted only a few times, and generally just to post a vote with little explanation.

This, it can be argued, is mafia behavior. However, 'blade has a history of participation in this style regardless of role.

'blade:

A little discussion from you would NOT be amiss at the present time.

[Thermal]

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[Chaotix]

And somehow, khaan and Reenk are let off the hook once again.

For future reference: what Aries is doing is just his play style. He's a joker/spammer, and you can never really be sure if he wants his side to win. He's doing exactly the same thing in the Simpsons Mafia.

[Seamus Fermanagh]

And somehow, khaan and Reenk are let off the hook once again.

For future reference: what Aries is doing is just his play style. He's a joker/spammer, and you can never really be sure if he wants his side to win. He's doing exactly the same thing in the Simpsons Mafia.

Where it would still be a crappy tactics and would likely have incurred my vote in just the same fashion had I been playing that delightfully silly-themed rendition.

[Askthepizzaguy]

The crew awakes in the morning and finds the empty quarters of Askthepizzaguy to have been occupied last night. There were candles everywhere, made out of all-natural beeswax and recycled materials. There were propaganda files scattered about the room, and strange symbols engraved in decorations. The recycling symbol was most prominent.

Various pro-government and pro-environmental slogans were etched into the walls using an unknown method. And of course, another of Askthepizzaguy's cult writings were found.

Rejoice my brethren, for this is the occasion of yet another joining the side of light. Once he has been purified by our teachings, we may set him free. The locusts seem content on murdering one another. It is regrettable that they have chosen this path, for each one they murder removes a potential agent of change, who will bring about the harmonious order we seek. They are committed to destroying one another, while we are committed to establishing order, balance, and hope. The radicals who perpetuate the old ways of waste and destruction will be purged. Nothing can stop this now. Change is coming. Hope is on the way.

The warm and loving embrace of the glorious light will soon enrapture the remaining neanderthals aboard this vessel, and fill them with the knowledge they seek. We will not permit them to destroy themselves.

[Thermal]

Where it would still be a crappy tactics and would likely have incurred my vote in just the same fashion had I been playing that delightfully silly-themed rendition.

in slang?

[pevergreen]

Twilightblade...yes. He is always like this. Just leave him to be thrown out of the airlock. EDIT: Hes about to go a week without internet as well, as he will be on a cruise, so might as well wog him now.

Get Khaan dammit.

[Csargo]

I'm over 9000 percent sure khaan is guilty.

[Reenk Roink]

Ok, I'm pretty sure Mithrandir is just roleplaying. He's roleplaying an aloof and contradictory person, but he's roleplaying. He wouldn't be a good lynch, don't pull a pevergreen on him.

I've never really been suspicious of seireikhaan before (I'm really not sure on any of the "new guys" relative to myself) but how is this guy still alive? I recall that several times he was about to be lynched and then the next day I see someone else was. Skimming some recent posts, he does seem to want to live a lot, but so did some other townies...

I don't know why anyone is suspicious of Ichigo. Same with Seamus Fermanagh. Twlightblade on the other hand...

It's time the start thinking about putting the pressure on Peasant Phill and Alexander the Pretty Good. Both are usually lurkers anyway, but hey, they've survived this far...

White_eyes:D is an enigma to me. He's actually the one who has dictated the game the most (maybe Chaotix27) and yet his demeanor is so innocent. There are better suspects than him right now but if he's alive two rounds from now, be sure to watch him...

[White_eyes:D]

Ok, I'm pretty sure Mithrandir is just roleplaying. He's roleplaying an aloof and contradictory person, but he's roleplaying. He wouldn't be a good lynch, don't pull a pevergreen on him.

I've never really been suspicious of seireikhaan before (I'm really not sure on any of the "new guys" relative to myself) but how is this guy still alive? I recall that several times he was about to be lynched and then the next day I see someone else was. Skimming some recent posts, he does seem to want to live a lot, but so did some other townies...

I don't know why anyone is suspicious of Ichigo. Same with Seamus Fermanagh. Twlightblade on the other hand...

It's time the start thinking about putting the pressure on Peasant Phill and Alexander the Pretty Good. Both are usually lurkers anyway, but hey, they've survived this far...

White_eyes:D is an enigma to me. He's actually the one who has dictated the game the most (maybe Chaotix27) and yet his demeanor is so innocent. There are better suspects than him right now but if he's alive two rounds from now, be sure to watch him...

True, I helped lynch two innocent townies.....(one, because he kinda went all green cult peace and said I was a mafia or the other way around) I am still a little confused on why Chaotix did what he did..... (two, because Aries bad jokes really sucked and even the dead guys said to not let up on him.....so I didn't ) but yeah, at any time I will get bandwagoned for all the innoccent townies I helped lynch.....

[Chaotix]

I'm still unsure of why I did what I did, too!
I mean, if you think about it, all I did was waste a lynch! Can't believe I actually believed all of ATPG's BS.

[Thermal]

bad jokes really sucked

i wasnt joking! besides, do you always lynch people that fail in being funny? your excuses to lynch are very poor

[Crazed Rabbit]

Captain's note:
The round will be delayed because I have ~2 hours or less to write 4 pages (double spaced) of an econ report on the Great Depression. I should have it up in less than 12 hours. If I'm still awake.

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[White_eyes:D]

i wasnt joking! besides, do you always lynch people that fail in being funny? your excuses to lynch are very poor

Well then your play style REALLY sucks then.... at least Chaotix knew he messed up but you seem to think some how you didn't....

[Thermal]

Well then your play style REALLY sucks then.... at least Chaotix knew he messed up but you seem to think some how you didn't....

bad townie dont suck, you can irritate other townies and if they decide to lynch you then i can taunt them and say they've blundered there chances on innocence

[ULC]

I'd like to voice something that has bothered me from the beginning, yet was never able to put words to it.

If the ecofreaks are able to convert, then why kill? Killing eliminates a possible convert, and incites said dead townie to become angry at them. A converted townie helps with voting and increase numbers, allowing the mafia to achieve their goal FASTER.

To me, this means several things -

The mafia either may only recruit so many,
The mafia actually lacks the ability to convert,
The mafia only has a chance to convert, where as they are guaranteed the elimination of a townie by killing them,
The mafia are highly experienced players, and are weeding out possible townie who would be bad for conversion based upon their lack of experience and susceptibility to being exposed, and expsoing those they associate with,
The mafia is highly inexperienced, and hasn't thought analytically about their position.

Also, reading through Pizzaguy's posts, I have come to a handful of conclusion, although I admit RR beat me to most of them.

1 - Do not bother trying to tell innocence from the write ups, where dealing with a cult like behavior who believe in something higher then themselves. As far as they are concerned, they will win, and that any sacrifice they make is better for the whole, thus they will be just as willing to be cyro-ed as town would.
2 - The words "Order, Balance, Harmony" continue to crop up in Pizzaguy's writings. Why? From what I gather, they hold significant importance. No other words are as repeated, for little or no reason, as these are. Pizzaguy is one to try to imbed clues, even if it is detrimental to his own side, in his writing.

3 - Also, as noted by Seamus and Reenk, Pizzaguy's tone changed significantly midway through the game. This leads me to believe he is a convert, and could have possibly been a protown role, which would explain his rather...revealing lynching. Thus, a thorough reading of Pizzaguy's posts, just before and just after, may reveal much information...if the town is willing to work for it.

[White_eyes:D]

I'd like to voice something that has bothered me from the beginning, yet was never able to put words to it.

If the ecofreaks are able to convert, then why kill? Killing eliminates a possible convert, and incites said dead townie to become angry at them. A converted townie helps with voting and increase numbers, allowing the mafia to achieve their goal FASTER.

To me, this means several things -

The mafia either may only recruit so many,
The mafia actually lacks the ability to convert,
The mafia only has a chance to convert, where as they are guaranteed the elimination of a townie by killing them,
The mafia are highly experienced players, and are weeding out possible townie who would be bad for conversion based upon their lack of experience and susceptibility to being exposed, and expsoing those they associate with,
The mafia is highly inexperienced, and hasn't thought analytically about their position.

Also, reading through Pizzaguy's posts, I have come to a handful of conclusion, although I admit RR beat me to most of them.

1 - Do not bother trying to tell innocence from the write ups, where dealing with a cult like behavior who believe in something higher then themselves. As far as they are concerned, they will win, and that any sacrifice they make is better for the whole, thus they will be just as willing to be cyro-ed as town would.
2 - The words "Order, Balance, Harmony" continue to crop up in Pizzaguy's writings. Why? From what I gather, they hold significant importance. No other words are as repeated, for little or no reason, as these are. Pizzaguy is one to try to imbed clues, even if it is detrimental to his own side, in his writing.

3 - Also, as noted by Seamus and Reenk, Pizzaguy's tone changed significantly midway through the game. This leads me to believe he is a convert, and could have possibly been a protown role, which would explain his rather...revealing lynching. Thus, a thorough reading of Pizzaguy's posts, just before and just after, may reveal much information...if the town is willing to work for it.

*sighs* not another Chaotix please....YLC you just got FoS for talking about hippie-based crap....1 and 2 MIGHT be true but 3 is worthless....because Pizza guy being a Pro-town role? (then why kill shlin?) Just ignore all of Pizza guys posts....he only wants to confuse you....He is VERY tricky....and only wants his side to win by any means necessary

[Thermal]

and someones trying to dominate attention again ahem....

at least he's trying, i think YLC is doing fine, and if he's wrong he can't be blamed, mafia is always full of mystery....

[ULC]

White_Eyes, please read through again and then see that I said Pizzaguy could have beena pro-town role BEFORE he was converted.

May I ask why your so willing to just quash my statements, instead of logically debating them? FoS, White_Eyes, FoS to you, for not actually debating what I said. I also do not see how my statements are "Hippie-Crap".

1. This is a statement made by Reenk Roink sometime ago, yet he hasn't been pounced on it like I have been.
2. I've studied Pizzaguy's play style, play behavior, and thought patterns exstensively after me humilatingly used me earlier this game. This is the way he likes to play, and since the town seems to have fettered out on ideas, I was only suggesting a new train of thought.
3. I was suggesting we pay more attention to the posts JUST before, and JUST after Pizzaguy's change in behavior, correlate the differences, and see what we can come up with. I am not suggesting we sit down and read with a glancing eye, but a serious analytical approach. I am sure a sound mind would have no proplem reading Pizzaguy's posts and be able to look past the propoganda to the meat of the post. I take it White_Eyes, that you don't like puzzles? I like puzzles, especially Jigsaws, and to make it even more challenging, I'll mix several together. It's only a matter of sorting out the garbage from the gold, and not getting distracted wanting to put the garbage together.

[White_eyes:D]

Ok, why are some people so sure that Choatix27 is innocent? Because his lynching write up was generic? Means nothing to be honest, except to give a bit more credence to the idea that Askthepizzaguy was the main Mafia.

Put Askthepizzguy on ignore for sure for the rest of the game. Strongly consider putting Chaotix27 on it as well.

YLC, you just made me even more suspicious of you for your defense of reason #3....Reenk was one of the first ones to SAY to ignore them, as all Pizza Guy would say would only help the Mafia confuse the Town....as his second post says below....

A very good idea. Look, Askthepizzaguy is going to try to be a Lokiesque figure. Everything he says is corrupting, even though we know him to be Mafia and expect him to lie! It puts doubts in our minds, and just adds to the mess of confusion and speculation. Of course Askthepizzaguy knows that he can never get us to believe something exactly in the positive or negative, but simply by reading his posts, we get ideas in our heads that come from a known Mafia. It's better we never have these ideas in the first place..

so what do you have to say for yourself YLC??? why did you say Reenk as someone who said those things earlier? about reason #3 When he was the one to warn us not too? and like I said reason 1 and 2 earlier IS something I thought of in my mind....but Reason #3 will only confuse the town......

[ULC]

I'm confused, at what point did I attribute anything but Statement #1 to Reenk? #2 and #3 are utterly my ideas, not Reenk's. Why are you trying so hard to crush my ideas, White_Eyes, with such blatant illogic?

And I am not trying to confuse the town, but rather help it. I do not even see my attempts as confusing, and only you so far have voiced any concern as too my ideas. I will wait for others to comment before further refining my hypothesis, but lets be honest White_Eyes, why not actually reason with my statements instead of pointing erratically, desperate to search through the text for one tidbit with which to nail me to the proverbial cross?

Reading Pizzaguy's posts will not hamper our minds, so long as you don't actually believe in what he writes. I don't, and it's rather easy to dissect them, to look for useful information. Plus, I am fairly sure Pizzaguy is a convert, which means a change from his posting before and after might shed more light.

But instead of logically debating that, you prefer to immediately and irrationally accuse me of putting words into Reenks mouth, which I did not.

[White_eyes:D]

1. This is a statement made by Reenk Roink sometime ago, yet he hasn't been pounced on it like I have been.

Then why did you say this? and the only reason why I didn't pounce on Reenk is because I agree with what Reenk said earlier, about Pizza Guy only putting ideas into our minds if we analyze it too much. I mean that's what happened to Chaotix and it is starting to sound like you as well.
(You know where he started to talk about the Mafia being the good guys and the town being the bad guys and on how we ALL should join the cult and some bullflop like that)

[ULC]

Your still taking it out of context. That statement correlates to my first primary statement, as follows

1 - Do not bother trying to tell innocence from the write ups, where dealing with a cult like behavior who believe in something higher then themselves. As far as they are concerned, they will win, and that any sacrifice they make is better for the whole, thus they will be just as willing to be cyro-ed as town would.

Now, pay more attention

[White_eyes:D]

Your still taking it out of context. That statement correlates to my first primary statement, as follows



Now, pay more attention

And your still avoiding telling me why we should look into Pizza guys clues, when it well only confuse us more....(And I did agree with or feel reasons 1 and 2 were good but reason 3 would only serve to confuse the Town)

[ULC]

How would it confuse the town? Again, go at it not as if you were reading a newspaper or novel, but as if you were combing it for research. Pizzaguy embeds clues into everything he does, and if we look hard enough, we will find them.

Of course, I have yet to hear a better course of action from you.

[White_eyes:D]

How would it confuse the town? Again, go at it not as if you were reading a newspaper or novel, but as if you were combing it for research. Pizzaguy embeds clues into everything he does, and if we look hard enough, we will find them.

Of course, I have yet to hear a better course of action from you.

So, basically all that we have argued about is that Pizza Guy left some clue....about midway thru on how he got recruited into the cult and maybe that's why he is(or was) Pro-town? because his Lynch was so revealing?*face palm* I think we just wasted about 10 or so posts then..... as for ideas.....none.......only that everyone seems to have a lynch victim in mind, so if you have any better clues please somebody speak up.....

[Crazed Rabbit]

The time grew late on The Prometheus. The crew returned to their quarters. Some of them talked, others kept to themselves, contemplating what had happened.

One member of the crew realized he had forgotten his jacket in the meeting room and went back to fetch it. The lights were still undimmed this early at night.

He walked quickly back to the room, not especially wary. He did not hear or see the figure move behind him. After he had entered the room and put the jacket on, he was walking towards the exit when he heard a soft clank.

Yoyoma stopped and stared out the door. The sound reminded him of someone scraping his shoe against the wall. He didn’t move for a moment and heard nothing more. He moved towards the door.

As he stepped out, he heard a scuffle and a grunt from his right, and turned quickly to see a man bearing down on him, swinging a weapon. Yoyoma was not caught unaware, and dodged to his left. The man did not stop advancing and brought his weapon, which Yoyoma saw was a pipe, around for another swing. Having seen no other figures around him, Yoyoma seized the moment and rushed against his assailant, laying hands on him before he could bring his weapon around. He landed two swift blows at close range, but the attacked dropped his weapon and reached to grapple with Yoyoma. He had great strength, but Yoyoma was able to break off his grip and fling the advancing man to the side.

The attacker stumbled past before turning and grunting, but Yoyoma had already taken off running towards the barracks room. The attacker immediately pursued him.

Yoyoma did not notice that the lights had been dimmed, and run at full steam through the corridors of the ship, narrowly missing corners and structures. He was running as fast as he could, but still he heard the attacker behind him, not losing ground.

But he kept his pace up, knowing he was almost back, just a turn or two more and he would be safe. But in a blur he felt a huge pain in his stomach and was tumbling across the floor and into a wall, where he groaned in pain. Yoyoma had not seen the man emerge and swing his weapon directly into him a tiny fraction of a second before he passed the corner.

Yoyoma wheezed in pain and gripped his ribs, struggling to get to his feet. He could only manage to get up on his knees and balance against the wall, one hand grasping his side, the other supporting him. He struggled to breath; it was harder than anything he had ever done before.

He tried to yell but could not, and looked up to see figures approaching him. One went to retrieve a pipe where the impact with Yoyoma had ripped it from the attacker’s grasp.

“How fitting that your demise is due to this brutal technology of metal you employ. Perhaps now you will appreciate its evil before I cleanse this universe of another parasite,” said the man as he picked up the pipe and approached Yoyoma.

Yoyoma was violently grasping for breath against the wall and could not move out of the way. As the attacker approached, he held up an arm to block the blow. It did not help.

His body was not discovered for some time. In the morning, the mood was perhaps more somber than ever before.

The Captain paced tensely at the front of the meeting room, face rigid. Finally, he curtly addressed the crew, “I believe you need not be reminded of the importance of your task. Do not be distracted and find the killer.”

The Captain returned to pacing. The crew members looked among themselves.

Alive (10)

Ichigo
makaikhaan
YLC
Seamus
Reenk Roink
twilightblade
Peasant Phill
Mithrandir
White Eyes
Alexander The Pretty Good


Killed (5)
Lord Winter
Andres
shlin28
beefy187
Yoyoma

Thrown Out the Air-Lock (1)
KukriKhan

Imprisoned (7)

Rythmic
glyphz
Sigurd
Askthepizzaguy
Chaotix
Pevergreen
Aries777777

[Thermal]

i doubt YLC is mafia else he wouldn't bother arguing with the argumentative, he'd of avoided it in the first place, though what do the imprisoned know....