I don't like Gulliani or Palin. Where does this leave me?
I don't like Gulliani or Palin. Where does this leave me?
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My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Romney you fool! You had your shot!
Giuliani will never run for president again, I'll put money on it. His showing was embarrassing and he sealed his fate; to be NY/Tri-State elected only.
Romney may go again in 2012, Palin would be smart to run in 2016 after two terms in the Governorship. If she could get a half term in as Senator that would be good too.
Jindal may go for it in 2012. Paul Ryan may be a Senator by then. Eric Cantor seems to have ambition. I wouldn't be suprised to see Chuck Hagel come back - he is interesting. I hope Huckabee stays on his talk show.
Rick Perry may run after the nation forgets about Texas Republicans, Crist might not be bad as long as he doesn't have a white-haired running mate or a boyfriend. Pawlenty would make a good run. Sanford, Hutchison etc.
Republicans have a bunch of bright and well educated guys and gals climbing the ranks. Some are in the House and may pick up a Senate seat, others will have aged by 2012 and 2016. The funny thing is that they don't all sound like hicks and can answer abstract questions. THe echelon that took legitimate offense to the GOP beign thought of as dumb and hillbilly is now gaining years in office.
We need to not run anyone like McCain or Dole again. If they are old they have to seem young or no ball.
Last edited by ICantSpellDawg; 11-21-2008 at 23:09.
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-Eric "George Orwell" Blair
"If the policy of the government, upon vital questions affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court...the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned the government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."
(Lincoln's First Inaugural Address, 1861).
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If the Republicans nominate Romney or Palin in 2012, they'll be shooting themselves in the foot.
Jindal, Crist, or Pawlenty would be far better. Hell, they might even get *my* vote, depending on how Obama's doing by then.![]()
EDIT: And Senator Kerry? Liberal he may be, but he was also obnoxiously bland and uninspiring. As soon as I saw he was confirmed as the nominee, I knew Bush was in.![]()
Last edited by Martok; 11-22-2008 at 03:10.
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Well that depends on what Romney does over these next 4 years. Republicans are unlikely to win an election to a sitting President. Nobody has done that since Carter and that was almost 30 years ago and he was most likely the worst (or second worst) President since the Great Depression. Even Bush won a second term and he is probably THE worst.
Romney excited me to a great extent with the unique qualities that he brought to the table. This primary season was about getting to know him, getting over his Mormonism and coming to terms that he is a pro-life convert. He is an incredibly gifted business man and has a knack for reducing the complex without really sacrificing complexity. He understands the difference between optimism and naivety and this primary will strengthen that understanding.
If he stays visible and takes a few more difficult tasks before 2012, he has a decent shot at picking up the nomination in 2012. I don't believe that he will ever be President, but even to a sitting president in 2012 I believe that he will have a better shot than any GOP contender did in 2008.
He will usher in a necessary re-birth of Ivy-League educated, Northeastern Republicans that will help re-claim some radical issues that are brilliant. The GOP can't survive shooting from the hip and speaking with a drawl about stopping progress. Unique, bright, and conservative solutions need to be developed instead of folksy rhetorical stop-signs.
In doing this he will help make the GOP a viable option to the new Democratic party.
Last edited by ICantSpellDawg; 11-22-2008 at 04:07.
"That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
-Eric "George Orwell" Blair
"If the policy of the government, upon vital questions affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court...the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned the government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."
(Lincoln's First Inaugural Address, 1861).
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I must admit, I've gotten over Romney's "creepazoid" factor that bugged me so badly for months on end. I still to this day can't get over where his campaign advice was coming from him. As impressive as his track record was, his campaign was even more terrible. Trying to be the "ultra republican" and "democrats are bad people, we need a good Republican in the white house" was not only a terrible campaign idea, but also a genuinely bad concept for governence. Unfortunately, he has not seemed to have gotten out of this bizarre phase he's in, and until he does, he will never get my vote.
It is better to conquer yourself than to win a thousand battles. Then, the victory is yours. It cannot be taken from you, not by angels or by demons, heaven or hell.
I always kinda liked Romney. As I said many times during the primaries, I think he's a closet moderate, and that's a good thing. Also, the man has demonstrated competence as a business leader, which is a rarity in a politician.
He needs Noonan and Brooks to write for him if he is going to have another go at it.
He should focus on his unique positions and gifts like his private sector experience and population center conservatism that recognizes realities and tries to temper them; keeping what works and replacing what doesn't.
He has a shot. We need to cultivate Bobby Jindal's, Michael Steele's and Sarah Palin's to help us get marginalized pockets to feel more at home.
We don't need the two parties to merge into one party. We need a strong GOP just like we need a strong Democratic party that are seperate breeding grounds for different thought, but thought has to be a result.
Criticism will be good for us. 8 years should be enough, hopefully we can do it in 4.
"That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
-Eric "George Orwell" Blair
"If the policy of the government, upon vital questions affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court...the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned the government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."
(Lincoln's First Inaugural Address, 1861).
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