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    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South View Post
    So you're saying the RAF was a reaction against the NAZIs? Were there people making sure the Fascists could never take hold again? I don't pretend to know anything about Europe but I think Ive got it.
    No, not the nazis. (Although there is a reason why red terrorism struck Italy and Germany much harder than elsewhere in the 1970s)

    Erm...I tried to find a good link. To no avail. If you are really interested, I am sure there are some good links around but I can't find any right now. I would share some of my ideas, but it would be like trying to explain why the Black Panthers came about in America in the 1960's. Can't do it in a few sentences. It would take too much time for something that a fine essay that undoubtly floats around somewhere on the interwebs wouldn't explain much better and with much greater insight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Louis VI the Fat View Post
    No, not the nazis. (Although there is a reason why red terrorism struck Italy and Germany much harder than elsewhere in the 1970s)

    Erm...I tried to find a good link. To no avail. If you are really interested, I am sure there are some good links around but I can't find any right now. I would share some of my ideas, but it would be like trying to explain why the Black Panthers came about in America in the 1960's. Can't do it in a few sentences. It would take too much time for something that a fine essay that undoubtly floats around somewhere on the interwebs wouldn't explain much better and with much greater insight.
    I guess I'll look it up on my own. I will be back to argue with you.
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    Strike:

    Do you realize how few Texans would ever have bothered with any of the stuff Horkheimer and Adorno cranked out? Much less internalized it for motivation/life goal purposes?

    Louis is asserting that the intellectual zeitgeist that made such movements possible is so far from the US experience -- especially as crystalized in that little slice of Heaven between the Rio Grande and the Red River -- that it would be unthinkable for it to have occurred there. Remember, about the best we managed on those lines was the Simbionese Liberation Army, and they were little more than bank robbers with a Che Guevera sense of fashion.

    By the way, I thought Texas was averaging 8-10 years from sentencing to execution, whereas your post implied about 3-4 years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seamus Fermanagh View Post
    Strike:

    Do you realize how few Texans would ever have bothered with any of the stuff Horkheimer and Adorno cranked out? Much less internalized it for motivation/life goal purposes?

    Louis is asserting that the intellectual zeitgeist that made such movements possible is so far from the US experience -- especially as crystalized in that little slice of Heaven between the Rio Grande and the Red River -- that it would be unthinkable for it to have occurred there. Remember, about the best we managed on those lines was the Simbionese Liberation Army, and they were little more than bank robbers with a Che Guevera sense of fashion.

    By the way, I thought Texas was averaging 8-10 years from sentencing to execution, whereas your post implied about 3-4 years.
    I understand that a leftist revo group would never take root here. I was just trying to highlight the criminal justice system not so much his revo tendencies. Nine innocents is nine innocents.

    I also agree that Europe has followed a very different path. I have no idea what the Simbionese liberation Army is. Im from a different generation!

    Now I'm simply trying to find out what this RAF really was.


    The TDCJ is a clusterintercourse. The average is ten years however we have a system that speeds you up the more heinous your crime (ever hear the Ron White quote?) So I'd imagine a communist who killed nine people in the public eye may break the record (8 months)
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    [QUOTE=Strike For The South;2070627] I have no idea what the Simbionese liberation Army is. Im from a different generation!{/QUOTE]

    Google "Patty Hearst" and "abduction." You should get plenty of stuff to learn about that particular cluster of numbskulls.

    Quote Originally Posted by Strike For The South
    The TDCJ is a clusterintercourse. The average is ten years however we have a system that speeds you up the more heinous your crime (ever hear the Ron White quote?) So I'd imagine a communist who killed nine people in the public eye may break the record (8 months)
    Well, now that you put it that way, such a perp would pretty much ring all the bells needed for your typical Texan group to stamp "paid" on his account quickly.
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