The Dutch

**Fragony** · 11-26-2008, 20:21

Originally Posted by rvg

Just like the U.S. the Netherlands fought to overthrow the shackles of an oppressive monarchy ruling their country from a faraway place, and succeeded in securing their independence and religious freedom.

That's a rather modern point of view, it wasn't odd to the dutch to be governed by a spanish king, no such things as 'country's' at that time. The father of King Phillip II we had so much trouble with was actually born in what is now the Netherlands.

**rvg** · 11-26-2008, 20:27

Originally Posted by Fragony

That's a rather modern point of view, it wasn't odd to the dutch to be governed by a spanish king, no such things as 'country's' at that time. The father of King Phillip II we had so much trouble with was actually born in what is now the Netherlands.

Just like the American colonists were loyal subjects of the British crown until the good old King George decided that he could mistreat and disrespect us.

**LittleGrizzly** · 11-26-2008, 20:30

Well protection aint free ya know

Wasn't it parliment that set the taxes rather than the king ? (unsure)

**rvg** · 11-26-2008, 20:37

Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly

Well protection aint free ya know

Wasn't it parliment that set the taxes rather than the king ? (unsure)

Either way. I'm gonna try to help keep this thred Dutch: Levees, Windmills, Tulips, Drugs, Hookers == good stuff.

**yesdachi** · 11-26-2008, 20:44

When I hear “Dutch” I think of our Dutch, the ones in Holland, MI. – they are cheep, simple meat and potato eaters, of giant proportion, and a bit arrogant and egotistical, the Dutch genome seems to generate the largest people on the planet.

To think outside my monkeysphere, when I hear “Dutch” I think of loose sex and drug laws and this quote…
Nigel Powers: All right Goldmember. Don't play the laughing boy. There's only two things I hate in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures and the Dutch.

**InsaneApache** · 11-27-2008, 13:40

Originally Posted by rvg

Just like the American colonists were loyal subjects of the British crown until the good old King George decided that he could mistreat and disrespect us.

It's good to see that the 230 year old spin is still effective.

As for the Dutchys, I like them. In the the 80s I had a very good friend who moved back to Aalsmeer when his marriage broke up. In fact he was the roundabout reason I got into computers. We used to play chess on sundays and when he went 'home' I bought a rubber mat Spectrum so that I could carry on playing chess.

One shock I had was when I stayed at his house one night and he asked me if I'd like some ham and eggs for brekky. It was ham and eggs but not what I was expecting, it was boiled ham.

Oh clogs, windmills and tulips spring to mind as well as hashish and tarts. What a country!

**Husar** · 11-27-2008, 15:16

I have a very good friend who is dutch, we also have a lot in common, I always call him Papa...

Anyway, I think the dutch are very nice people etc, as has been said already.
They're also my team of choice in FIFA 09 although I might have chosen a somewhat older cadre, but the dutch are also a good football team for me that deserved to win cups often but then let everybody down and stopped playing for some reason. Maybe they're just humble.

**Kralizec** · 11-27-2008, 15:20

The Dutch? Drug-addled millers with wooden shoes, mostly.

**LittleGrizzly** · 11-27-2008, 15:22

They realise that as a small nation it would be awfully embaressing for the other football powers if the dutch won something, humble, putting others first... is there no end to dutch virtues...