Brainwashing? Christianity seems to be taking weird steps, here at least.

**pevergreen** · 11-27-2008, 00:51

Originally Posted by Big_John

walk away pever, walk away before it's too late.

I got bored and I stopped. Never fear.

I do like the discussion it has spawned though.

**Sigurd** · 12-18-2008, 10:06

Originally Posted by pevergreen

I got bored and I stopped. Never fear.

I do like the discussion it has spawned though.

Any follow up story on this one pever?

Also, I had a discussion this weekend with a Born again Lutheran on the infallibility of the Bible which coincidently involved Rhyfelwyr's quoted scripture.

Is it getting close? It seems there is a certain awakening in the Christian movement everywhere.

**pevergreen** · 12-18-2008, 14:13

Oh yes!

They both decided to delete me as friends on facebook and they refuse to talk to me, not because they know this, but because they are now going out!

So according to their own beliefs, they are obviously soon to be married

("they" being the lady and the boy who converted her in the first place, who when questioned, said he had no intention of going out with her. We all knew it was a lie

)

In terms of Christianity, i still dont think it can work until it falls beneath a single umbrella, with a single head, but still allow the different denominations.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 12-18-2008, 14:21

Originally Posted by pevergreen

Oh yes!

They both decided to delete me as friends on facebook and they refuse to talk to me, not because they know this, but because they are now going out!

So according to their own beliefs, they are obviously soon to be married

("they" being the lady and the boy who converted her in the first place, who when questioned, said he had no intention of going out with her. We all knew it was a lie

)

In terms of Christianity, i still dont think it can work until it falls beneath a single umbrella, with a single head, but still allow the different denominations.

So the guy used Christianity to get a girl to dump her boyfriend and then asked her out?

Oh man, oh man.

**pevergreen** · 12-18-2008, 14:26

We knew for some time it was going to happen. A lot of people want to hit him. Hard.

Sarathos is over it anyway.

**Rhyfelwyr** · 12-18-2008, 14:31

Originally Posted by pevergreen

We knew for some time it was going to happen. A lot of people want to hit him. Hard.

Sarathos is over it anyway.

I always thought these dramas that are associated with Aussies were just based on stereotypes from soaps like Neighbours, however with some of the stories I've heard from your circle of Orgah friends I'm begging to wonder if they have some foundations...

**HoreTore** · 12-18-2008, 15:22

Originally Posted by pevergreen

We knew for some time it was going to happen. A lot of people want to hit him. Hard.

Sarathos is over it anyway.

Bah. Puppy love. Who cares?

And they're christians, they get all the drawbacks of a relationship but without the benefit(teh sex), so.... I feel rather sorry for them

**Sigurd** · 12-18-2008, 15:44

Originally Posted by pevergreen

They both decided to delete me as friends on facebook and they refuse to talk to me, not because they know this, but because they are now going out!

So ... they don't know your interest was fake but then just dump you out of ... spite? Your connection to Sarathos?

So according to their own beliefs, they are obviously soon to be married

("they" being the lady and the boy who converted her in the first place, who when questioned, said he had no intention of going out with her. We all knew it was a lie

)

Man ... If I had still lived in Brisbane, I might have offered to "talk" to them.
But ya never know. He wanted her over to this ... ( can't exactly call it extreme form of Christianity ) to get the woman of his dreams. She might as well have been lured in to get the boy of her dreams.

**LittleGrizzly** · 12-18-2008, 16:48

Hang on a second... are you telling me i can use religion to pull ?!

Time to start brushing up on my bible studies!

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 12-19-2008, 16:38

Originally Posted by HoreTore

Bah. Puppy love. Who cares?

And they're christians, they get all the drawbacks of a relationship but without the benefit(teh sex), so.... I feel rather sorry for them

Yes, we know you are a nhilist who hates God.

Originally Posted by Sigurd

So ... they don't know your interest was fake but then just dump you out of ... spite? Your connection to Sarathos?

Man ... If I had still lived in Brisbane, I might have offered to "talk" to them.
But ya never know. He wanted her over to this ... ( can't exactly call it extreme form of Christianity ) to get the woman of his dreams. She might as well have been lured in to get the boy of her dreams.

This is something that deserves it's own topic really, faith and human relationships. Personally, I can't imagine how you can have an intimate relationship with someone who has a completely different world view to you, not to mention the potential salvation/damnation issue.

**Sigurd** · 12-19-2008, 16:54

Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla

This is something that deserves it's own topic really, faith and human relationships. Personally, I can't imagine how you can have an intimate relationship with someone who has a completely different world view to you, not to mention the potential salvation/damnation issue.

Unless you believe that marriage continues after death, I can't see this as a problem. Faith is an individual thing and I believe so are salvation.
Besides... if it is predestined ...

**Rhyfelwyr** · 12-19-2008, 17:16

Well there is the whole thing about not going into a relationship which will be 'unequally yoked'.

**Philippus Flavius Homovallumus** · 12-19-2008, 23:00

Originally Posted by Sigurd

Unless you believe that marriage continues after death, I can't see this as a problem. Faith is an individual thing and I believe so are salvation.
Besides... if it is predestined ...

Well, I don't believe in predestination, as we have established, so that isn't a problem. To a certain extent your own faith is personnal but Christianity is a communal religion, not a private one, and beyond that I just find it difficult to understand how you can share your whole life with someone who has a completely different conception of reality.

My faith is an integral part of my life, it informs my very understanding of my own existance. For example:

Christmas: More than just an excuse to have the family over and have a big party, fun as that is. For me that's secondary to celebrating the fact that over two thousand years ago the world and the fabric of reality were fundamentally altered.

I can't imagine spending my life with someone who can't understand that feeling.