Ok - so we all now agree that Bush was a disaster, that the Iraq invasion was a disaster and that man made climate change is going to screw us over.
So did you vote for Bush, support the war and refuse to believe in climate change?
Did you help ruin the world?
Ok - so we all now agree that Bush was a disaster, that the Iraq invasion was a disaster and that man made climate change is going to screw us over.
So did you vote for Bush, support the war and refuse to believe in climate change?
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
Where's the "I voted for Nader, so I helped ruin the world" option?
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Re: Did you help ruin the world?
Not directly, but I pay taxes and that's spent in my name on such projects as Iraq.
An enemy that wishes to die for their country is the best sort to face - you both have the same aim in mind.
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Re: Did you help ruin the world?
Not religious.
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
Hey, nobody's perfect. Just to make it up to ya'll...here's a pretty.
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain that which he cannot lose." *Jim Elliot*
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
I did support the war in Iraq at first, don't know what was riding me back then but I do not anymore for quite some time andthink I shouldn't have back then most likely so I voted that I don't.
"Topic is tired and needs a nap." - Tosa Inu
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
Indeed they aren't. But some people's imperfections have more impact than othersHey, nobody's perfect. Just to make it up to ya'll...here's a pretty
"The republicans will draft your kids, poison the air and water, take away your social security and burn down black churches if elected." Gawain of Orkney
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
I sometimes queston climate change but that's all on that list, so I suppose I only ruined it a little bit.
At the end of the day politics is just trash compared to the Gospel.
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
This is a tad melodramatic.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
You i assume you supported the war?
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
12 when it started. To young to have an opinion.You i assume you supported the war?
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
That's why I didn't vote for Bush. It'd be illegal.
"Nietzsche is dead" - God
"I agree, although I support China I support anyone discovering things for Science and humanity." - lenin96
Re: Pursuit of happiness
Have you just been dumped?
I ask because it's usually something like that which causes outbursts like this, needless to say I dissagree completely.
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
I do question climate change.
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
Did you?
Vote for Bush - Not in 2000, but yes in '04, so the same 'leadership' that got us in could get us out, of Iraq quickly.
Support war in Iraq - not the invasion (premature, I thought) & not the occupation; wanted/want a quick, safe-for-our soldiers withdrawal.
Disbelieve climate change - skeptical because of the hysteria of the damage claims; willing to spend tax money looking into it, and reducing/eliminating reliance on dead dinosaur sauce.
So yeah... I guess I helped ruin the world. :)
So, what's my penalty? Oh, the same as yours, right?: living with it.
Be well. Do good. Keep in touch.
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
im not american so no, plus im not even old enough to vote
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
you are missing "made bad loans that sunk the economy" (not that i know exactly sunk it....)
btw the theory of global warming (that mankind is doing it, not nature) isnt a fact.v
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Re: Did you help ruin the world?
Are you going to back that up with... you know... evidence?
Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
Looks like if you aren't american you help to save the world.
Names, secret names
But never in my favour
But when all is said and done
It's you I love
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
He's right. Man-made global warming isn't a "fact," it's a "theory." There is evidence both for and against it.
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
He certainly made many mistakes.
Read the news lately?that the Iraq invasion was a disaster
Nope.and that man made climate change is going to screw us over.
I love the last bit - "refuse to believe" - you sound like such a religious zealot. Michael Crighton was completely right about global warming - oh, wait, you fellows have changed it to climate change after the world stopped warming as much so you could say practically any weather event is evidence of our impending doom -being a religion.So did you vote for Bush, support the war and refuse to believe in climate change?
The same people who go around saying 'dissent is patriotic' get so angry when you are skeptical of them.
CR
Ja Mata, Tosa.
The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
I believe in Climate change, I just don't believe that it is necessarily man-made or that we can do anything about it aside from advance technologically to deal with all climate related eventualities.
I supported Bush, but he has become very difficult to defend over the past few years.
I believe in pre-emptive wars and I think that Iraq was both a good and necessary idea given the circumstances. We will see how it turns out after we leave. Yes it has cost a tremendous amount, but how much would you have paid to try out 21st century technology on the battlefield instead of just waiting to use it when we need it most. Iraq has been a sinkhole for terrorism and will be an active global contributor after it realizes that it can stand on its own feet.
I would have preferred a different Republican in the White House - I like academic types.
Do you really think that Gore or Kerry would have done any better? I'm not so sure - we might be dealing with a backlash against Democratic war-mongering instead. Bush campaigned on an isolationist platform in 2000, remember.
I support well intentioned military actions irrespective of the Admin. I defend a number of decisions surrounding Vietnam by the Dems.
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-Eric "George Orwell" Blair
"If the policy of the government, upon vital questions affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court...the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned the government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."
(Lincoln's First Inaugural Address, 1861).
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Re: Did you help ruin the world?
We've certainly salvaged what we could, but I'm not sure you can call Iraq a net gain by any stretch. Its chewed up massive amounts of money for little, if any, gain.Read the news lately?
When it occurs to a man that nature does not regard him as important and that she feels she would not maim the universe by disposing of him, he at first wishes to throw bricks at the temple, and he hates deeply the fact that there are no bricks and no temples
-Stephen Crane
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
yeah-
http://canadafreepress.com/2007/glob...ming020507.htm
more to come, if you want.
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Re: Did you help ruin the world?
The organization that he runs isn't conterversy free, for all his talk about how science shouldn't take any outside funding. Plus the website it's hosted on is no were near politicaly neutral. How can any one who hosts this article that wants the Suprume court to overturn Obama's election be any where near neutral. Now if you can find anything in a peer reviewed journal then we can debate.
When it occurs to a man that nature does not regard him as important and that she feels she would not maim the universe by disposing of him, he at first wishes to throw bricks at the temple, and he hates deeply the fact that there are no bricks and no temples
-Stephen Crane
AW: Did you help ruin the world?
Good to see that only things that Americans do ruin the world
"Am I not destroying my enemies when I make friends of them?"
-Abraham Lincoln
Four stage strategy from Yes, Minister:
Stage one we say nothing is going to happen.
Stage two, we say something may be about to happen, but we should do nothing about it.
Stage three, we say that maybe we should do something about it, but there's nothing we can do.
Stage four, we say maybe there was something we could have done, but it's too late now.
Re: Did you help ruin the world?
The English are obsessed with us. They are American citizens without voting rights. It really burns their crumpets that we didn't fight harder in the revolution and take them with us.
"That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
-Eric "George Orwell" Blair
"If the policy of the government, upon vital questions affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court...the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned the government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."
(Lincoln's First Inaugural Address, 1861).
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Re: Did you help ruin the world?
Climate change is not Bush' fault. It's just a problem caused by billions of our kind on this earth. It's just way too much. If we'd rapidly decrease in numbers environmental problems would decrease along.
Planting some extra trees here and there or having the industry let out 10% less Co2 isn't going to help at all. Those things are just to keep the people happy and not too much worried about the climate.
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Re: Did you help ruin the world?
Yeah.....that's it.....exactly....right on.
HOW ABOUT 'DEM VIKINGS
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Re: Did you help ruin the world?
In b4 "SADDAM HAD WMDS"
HOW ABOUT 'DEM VIKINGS
-Martok
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