Greek Riots

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Classic Lose-lose dilemma for the controlling authority.

Restrict your forces to non-lethal responses and passive "shepherd" tactics and every once in a while the crowd will feel its oats, ignore the discomfort of tear gas and cry havoc. You then look like idiots while they destroy portions of the town.

Allow your forcs to use lethal force and you end the riots but have massacred your own citizens. Almost invariably those massacred will be "members of the crowd" and none of the real fomenters will get whacked -- but they'll lead the outcry against your barbarism.

[CountArach]

Allow your forcs to use lethal force and you end the riots but have massacred your own citizens. Almost invariably those massacred will be "members of the crowd" and none of the real fomenters will get whacked -- but they'll lead the outcry against your barbarism.

The problem is that that line of thought is how it started:
"They passed close to where 15-year-old Andreas Grigoropoulos was shot dead on Saturday. One banner called the police "murderers".

One protester told the BBC he had been greatly angered by the actions of the police.

"It's not the first time. They always kill people - immigrants, innocent people - and without any excuse," he said. "They murdered him in cold blood." "

[Seamus Fermanagh]

Unless the slain youngling is the scion of one of the local "elite," there is ALWAYS someone who'll blame the cops and call them murderers.

Not all cops are paladins, and they certainly are human enough to make mistakes -- but there is always a group of malcontents who will pillory them, regardless of the facts.

I am, therefore, always skeptical of cries of "police brutality." For me, the fact that an inquiry is in progress and the officers off duty is appropriate -- but then again I'm not looking for an excuse for mayhem.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I am, therefore, always skeptical of cries of "police brutality."

This, and especially when anarchists are doing the crying.

[CountArach]

Unless the slain youngling is the scion of one of the local "elite," there is ALWAYS someone who'll blame the cops and call them murderers.

Not all cops are paladins, and they certainly are human enough to make mistakes -- but there is always a group of malcontents who will pillory them, regardless of the facts.

I am, therefore, always skeptical of cries of "police brutality." For me, the fact that an inquiry is in progress and the officers off duty is appropriate -- but then again I'm not looking for an excuse for mayhem.

I understand where you are coming from - I'm just explaining why having heavily armed police is a bad idea - it gives the mob a reason to riot. If they have that reason then the Government is doing something wrong.

[Fragony]

The problem is that that line of thought is how it started:
"They passed close to where 15-year-old Andreas Grigoropoulos was shot dead on Saturday. One banner called the police "murderers".

One protester told the BBC he had been greatly angered by the actions of the police.

"It's not the first time. They always kill people - immigrants, innocent people - and without any excuse," he said. "They murdered him in cold blood." "

Ever talked to an anarchist?

[CountArach]

Ever talked to an anarchist?

Yes, why do you ask?

[Fragony]

Yes, why do you ask?

Well that's how these clowns talk. That's why.

[lars573]

My borther has disturbingly anarchist leanings. I can imagine him saying stuff like that. Makes me want to go upside his head like we're 7 and 5 again.

[Fragony]

Don't hold back, nothing more annoying then the high moral ground of anti-fascist fascists.