New factions?

[Aemilius Paulus]

I thought it was still uncertain if the Saba even originated in Southern Arabia or Eastern Ethiopia.

Does that matter for EB purposes? We don't know where Etruscans came from, but we know sure know a lot more about them than about other civilizations, like the Eastern European ones for instance. Mostly all that matters is everything about what the civilization was at about 272 BC.

[a completely inoffensive name]

Does that matter for EB purposes? We don't know where Etruscans came from, but we know sure know a lot more about them than about other civilizations, like the Eastern European ones for instance. Mostly all that matters is everything about what the civilization was at about 272 BC.

Which we know less about then the Boii.

[Aemilius Paulus]

Which we know less about then the Boii.

We know less about Etruscans than Boii? Is that what you meant?

Are you sure? True, Etruscans are mysterious, but we have countless Etruscan artifacts and we have even found inscriptions in their alphabet, which we sadly cannot decipher, but I am quite certain that if the US military worked on deciphering Etruscan alphabet as much as they work on cracking Russian and Chinese codes, then we would already be reading those inscriptions with ease.

[a completely inoffensive name]

We know less about Etruscans than Boii? Is that what you meant?

Are you sure? True, Etruscans are mysterious, but we have countless Etruscan artifacts and we have even found inscriptions in their alphabet, which we sadly cannot decipher, but I am quite certain that if the US military worked on deciphering Etruscan alphabet as much as they work on cracking Russian and Chinese codes, then we would already be reading those inscriptions with ease.

oops I forgot to edit that quote, to only say the last part about knowing only what they were like in 272 B.C. To which I meant to imply that we know more about the Boii in 272 then the Saba in 272, and that the Boii is guaranteed a spot because of our knowledge of them compared to others already in game and its necessity for game balance in middle Europe. I wasn't referring to the Etruscans.

[MeinPanzer]

oops I forgot to edit that quote, to only say the last part about knowing only what they were like in 272 B.C. To which I meant to imply that we know more about the Boii in 272 then the Saba in 272, and that the Boii is guaranteed a spot because of our knowledge of them compared to others already in game and its necessity for game balance in middle Europe. I wasn't referring to the Etruscans.

Since you are so insistent on this point, would you care to summarize why you think there is more evidence for the Boii c. 272 BC than there is for the Sabaeans?

[a completely inoffensive name]

Since you are so insistent on this point, would you care to summarize why you think there is more evidence for the Boii c. 272 BC than there is for the Sabaeans?

Idk, twice as many sources in the Boii wikipedia page then the Saba page? Seriously though, I am not an expert on either but I was around when Saba was introduced and a lot of people were like why? And apparently they needed a faction there to keep AS and Ptole from spreading into that region instead of fighting in Palestine and Syria, not because of any major historical importance.

If you check my original posts you will also see I said that that the Boii will be in mostly due to game balance and not major historical accuracy. Someone said, well how much do we know about the Boii then and I replied less then the Saba, because I have played the Saba in game and it is not anywhere near the level of historical content as any of the other factions. I have read before from others that the only major info on the Germanic tribes comes from Tacitus and is way in the future from 272, yet when I have played Sweboz there is a lot of historical information. So if EB seems to have more info on the Germanic tribes in 272 then supposedly a major red sea trading nation, then why should I expect the Boii another major tribe to have less info then the Saba?

[MeinPanzer]

Idk, twice as many sources in the Boii wikipedia page then the Saba page? Seriously though, I am not an expert on either but I was around when Saba was introduced and a lot of people were like why? And apparently they needed a faction there to keep AS and Ptole from spreading into that region instead of fighting in Palestine and Syria, not because of any major historical importance.

I don't think I need to be writing this, but Wikipedia is a very poor source for any sort of historical information, especially on a specialist subject like ancient South Arabian civilizations. I know that the EB team has had a hard time getting experts to join the team who can help with the Sabaeans, so the Sabaeans of EBI are not really a good reflection of the historical evidence, unfortunately.

If you check my original posts you will also see I said that that the Boii will be in mostly due to game balance and not major historical accuracy. Someone said, well how much do we know about the Boii then and I replied less then the Saba, because I have played the Saba in game and it is not anywhere near the level of historical content as any of the other factions. I have read before from others that the only major info on the Germanic tribes comes from Tacitus and is way in the future from 272, yet when I have played Sweboz there is a lot of historical information. So if EB seems to have more info on the Germanic tribes in 272 then supposedly a major red sea trading nation, then why should I expect the Boii another major tribe to have less info then the Saba?

There's some information from sources on events contemporary to the EB timeframe about historical events related to the Germanic tribes, but the only evidence on most of their culture comes from Germania, which was written c. 100 AD. There is far less actual historical information about the Sabaeans than the Germans or the Boii, but much more cultural information (i.e. civic institutions, religion, social practices). Since the difficulty in EB is recreating the culture as a whole and not the history after 272 BC beyond general trends (since that, for the most part, is up to the players), there are many more resources relating to the Sabaeans available to the team than relating to the Boii or the Germans.

As for the gameplay considerations, those are their own separate matter, but you seem to be conflating history and practical gameplay applications here when your historical basis is wrong.