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    disgrace.
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    In fact I am so off about this I might go to my local MP's office and burn my useless Labour card in her useless face.

    I am fuming, bad times ahead.
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    disgrace.
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    It's not a proper sale - the government takes all responsibility for the pension deficit - running at £7 BILLION and then sells off part of the rest for something to look good on the balance sheet.

    I'm sure it's not the most efficient service, and IMO if it is to be privitised it should be done as BT was with strict rules to ensure no loss of service (although in BT's case their phone boxes are fnally being reduced) - the company makes savings from efficiency and not just from loosing the debt burden / ruining services.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rory_20_uk View Post
    It's not a proper sale - the government takes all responsibility for the pension deficit - running at £7 BILLION and then sells off part of the rest for something to look good on the balance sheet.
    Indeed, that sounds pretty short-sighted to me. If fixed rates, 'universal' collection and delivery, and citizen/customer/taxpayer input are all seen as desireable, a gov't-run (or semi-gov't-run, as is the US) would seem desireable, even with the inevitable shortcomings of gov't enterprise.
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    Ha!
    Labour will be squirming under this kind of pressure, Mandey's attempt to "reassure" backbenchers will hopefully fail and have him cowering behind the PM, who is fast looking like Swiss cheese!

    If this does not end Labour then the next revolt surely will, I hope Brown backs down over this. I expect a stand down will have to wait.

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    Because of the various things that have happened Brown cannot get things through in the same way Blair could, this is mostly good in terms of individual policys but bad looking at a long term view of it, this can only make labour look bad and make a tory victory more likely... lose lose...
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    Quote Originally Posted by LittleGrizzly View Post
    Because of the various things that have happened Brown cannot get things through in the same way Blair could, this is mostly good in terms of individual policys but bad looking at a long term view of it, this can only make labour look bad and make a tory victory more likely... lose lose...
    Perhaps the Liberals could win by playing one off agin the other?
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