Fillet Royale- Large Mafia game [Concluded]

[White_eyes:D]

Errrr.... would you care to elaborate on that?

I guess it had something to do with how you pointed a FoS against me last round and when I helped tie it up......

[Thermal]

i could leave CA out in the lurch but i'm going to be respectful for once


unvote: CA
vote: Andres

and through some of my weaker posts i believe my arugments against andres were clear, the fact that he tells us to role block others gets attention from himself, as he knows being blocked will mean no kill for him, furthermore i've never seen him play like this, people have said he used to, but from my experience, this is a first, so overall i think my reasons are valid, oh and about all this not wanting to/wanting to be lynch, i'm basically trying anything to prove my innocence, unfortunately my techniques are appalling

[Beefy187]

boudica... I think your gorgeous.. Just look at those scums who doesn't keep up the tally.. Thanks heaps


Aries: 3 (Chaotix, Andres, CA, )
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
CA: 3 (YLC, Boudica, Sarathos)
Andres: 3 (Rythmic, Andres, Aries)

Sarathos is saved from WoG.

We have a three way tie. Ill wait for 1 hours till the tie breaks

[Thermal]

2nd time lucky for me perhaps, i can just see a lurker steping in and randomly voting for me now....

[Chaotix]

Hmm... my vote will stay on Aries for now. Although I'm getting a scummy sort of vibe from CA, I'm also getting a really scummy vibe from Aries... as in, I've never seen him fight so hard to save his own skin. Self-preservation is one thing, but the franticness in Aries' recent demeanor suggests something more.

Also, notice how he tied it up right before the write-up. He would have been safe from lynch, but now it seems he wants to protect CA as well.

[Thermal]

Hmm... my vote will stay on Aries for now. Although I'm getting a scummy sort of vibe from CA, I'm also getting a really scummy vibe from Aries... as in, I've never seen him fight so hard to save his own skin. Self-preservation is one thing, but the franticness in Aries' recent demeanor suggests something more.

Also, notice how he tied it up right before the write-up. He would have been safe from lynch, but now it seems he wants to protect CA as well.

no, i said that i thought andres was guilty but voted for CA for self preservation, i will happyily change my vote back to CA if andres convinces me he's innocent....

[Beefy187]

Tick tick tick... Another no lynch rounds approaching

[Thermal]

if choatix believes me or CA are mafia (which i can say hand on heart i'm not) then vote for CA, at least they'll be a lynch, if you don't want to then fine, suits me fine too

[TevashSzat]

I guess I'll try to break the tie then. I will vote: Aries because he just wants to live wayyyyy too much for it to be normal.

Aries: 4 (Chaotix, Andres, CA, Tevash)
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
CA: 3 (YLC, Boudica, Sarathos)
Andres: 3 (Rythmic, Andres, Aries)

[Thermal]

unvote andres
vote CA

[Thermal]

Aries: 4 (Chaotix, Andres, CA, Tevash)
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
CA: 4 (YLC, Boudica, Sarathos, aries)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, Andres, )

[glyphz]

Proper tally:

Aries: 4 (Chaotix, Andres, CA, Tevash)
CA: 4 (YLC, Boudica, Sarathos, Aries)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, glyphz )
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)

[Thermal]

TS put andres in twice? wishful thinking aye? if i dont make it through tonight and you find im innocent, lynch andres and Tevash please

[Chaotix]

Well, that was an even dirtier trick to play there, Aries... I wonder if our extra hour was just a single tiebreaker round, or if it was to be used for a whole slew of vote manipulation....

Not lynching anyone is a bad idea. Unvote: Aries, Vote: CA.

You die tomorrow, Aries. You yourself have ensured it.

[Reenk Roink]

boudica... I think your gorgeous.. Just look at those scums who doesn't keep up the tally.. Thanks heaps

I also kept the tally! And the tracker! Aren't I gorgeous too?

Anyway:
Unvote: Chaotix27
Vote: Aries

Not lynching someone is a great idea.

Aries: 4 (Andres, CA, Tevash, Reenk Roink)
CA: 5 (YLC, Boudica, Sarathos, Aries, Chaotix)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, glyphz )

Somebody (not voting for CA) vote Aries now!

[Beefy187]

I also kept the tally! And the tracker! Aren't I gorgeous too?

Anyway:
Unvote: Chaotix27
Vote: Aries

Not lynching someone is a great idea.

Aries: 4 (Andres, CA, Tevash, Reenk Roink)
CA: 5 (YLC, Boudica, Sarathos, Aries, Chaotix)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, glyphz )

Somebody (not voting for CA) vote Aries now!

Your sexy

[Andres]

I think Aries is a much better lynch candidate then CA.

Also, Reenk Roink, you're not giving much of a reason for voting me.

I believe Andres is very suspicious.

Explain. A vote without proper explanation smells scummy and leads to bandwagoning.

I think there shouldn't be even any suspicions against White Eyes, since he was the first killed. Any orders (if he can make one) would have been canceled. Having 3 (?!) murders should indicate that all(?) killers had acted.

That is simply not true. If you have three mafia families, then it's perfectly possible for one family to kill members of the other family; also, mafia A targeting mafia B does not automatically mean B's kill of that night will be cancelled.

If Beefy uses a "real time" system, like GH does since Mafia VI, then B's kill would still go through, if B got his orders in earlier then A.

There are also plenty of hosts who, in case of mafia A targetting mafia B, would allow the kill of mafia B, no matter what. I'm such a host myself.

When you have more then one mafia family in a game, getting killed by night is not = confirmed innocent.

[CountArach]

No one has provided a reason for me to be lynched yet...

[boudica]

No one has provided a reason for me to be lynched yet...

Hey CA,

AT the point I voted for you, Aries had 4 votes and you, Andres and Chaotix27 had 1 each. I wanted to see how/if people changed their voting if there was another possible 'runner' for lynching. I picked you, as i said at the time, not because I had any conclusive evidence, but purely from intuition/poker face/whatever based on your aggressive work before night 1. The way you were pursuing people as if your innocence was beyond question - and the fact that you changed your vote twice to either tie up the vote/protect Aries is specifically why i picked you instead of Andres or Chaotix27. And look what happened: The voting has gone crazy since then. I don't have any 'evidence' - I don't see how anyone can, but I wouldn't be suprised that if you were lynched we wouldn't be getting 3 murders a night any more :)

[CountArach]

So you believe that, despite all the evidence against Aries, I am a worthy lynch candidate simply based on a hunch?

I picked you, as i said at the time, not because I had any conclusive evidence, but purely from intuition/poker face/whatever based on your aggressive work before night 1.

That is how discussion is sparked and that is what gives us evidence to use against people at a future date. I have played like this in all my recent games.

The way you were pursuing people as if your innocence was beyond question - and the fact that you changed your vote twice to either tie up the vote/protect Aries is specifically why i picked you instead of Andres or Chaotix27.

Two things:
1) Accusing me of defending Aries is a little strange seeing as I am currently voting for him.
2) You still choose to ignore the evidence against Aries - I can understand that he might be your scumbuddy, but I can't see any other possible reasoning.

And look what happened: The voting has gone crazy since then.

Which is just more discussion and hence more evidence. The town rarely has anything more to go by other than posting and voting habits.

I don't have any 'evidence' - I don't see how anyone can

If you check the last few pages you will see the case against Aries. That is how people can get evidence.

[boudica]

well - lots of beef for thought. Now I'm really confused

[CountArach]

well - lots of beef for thought. Now I'm really confused

If you unvote to tie the vote up that would give you time to mull it over.

[boudica]

I agree. As I said, my motive for voting for you was to see if/how it changed things - not because i think you are necessarily guilty - unfortunately so much changed I'm not at all sure how I should process it yet, so:

unvote CA
vote: abstain


Aries: 4 (Andres, CA, Tevash, Reenk Roink)
CA: 4 (YLC, Sarathos, Aries, Chaotix)
Andres: 2 (Rythmic, glyphz )

Abstain: Boudica

[Thermal]

Despite the fact OMGIS vote, there was that letter that you claimed not to write, with confused me alot, it said beef organization leader so wouldn't that of been a good thing? or maybe it was just made up? anyway i've had a case too, the case against me merely preys on my self-preservation and attention seeking antics, which to me don't indicate i'm guilty at all, it's as if townie isn't even associable with me anymore and you call me mafia regardless, when your on no basis to make such false assumptions, so if you want a question answered about my behavior, go ahead and ask, i'm willing to answer

[Thermal]

if i was mafia i would never bring this much attention to myself, i'm not that dim-witted, this whole interigation sparked because i voted for tevash who claimed to be god, truly an insult to the kingdom of beef, throughout the same people choose to go against me, rather annoying that they don't give me a chance, and decide to criticize me rather than ask me constructive questions

[Yoyoma1910]

Dun dun dun

[Thermal]

well if your going to undermine my posts at least put some effort into it

[CountArach]

Despite the fact OMGIS vote, there was that letter that you claimed not to write, with confused me alot, it said beef organization leader so wouldn't that of been a good thing? or maybe it was just made up?

That post claimed that everyone should follow me and that I have evidence. I did not have evidence and as such it would have been a bad thing for me to claim. I would have been intentionally misleading the town. It was certainly written by someone else (I never put a space between CountArach).

anyway i've had a case too, the case against me merely preys on my self-preservation and attention seeking antics, which to me don't indicate i'm guilty at all, it's as if townie isn't even associable with me anymore and you call me mafia regardless, when your on no basis to make such false assumptions, so if you want a question answered about my behavior, go ahead and ask, i'm willing to answer

There have been several questions answered and several posts that you simply have not address, especially Andres'. Your only responses to any posts have been to say "CA is more guilty - lynch him".

if i was mafia i would never bring this much attention to myself, i'm not that dim-witted, this whole interigation sparked because i voted for tevash who claimed to be god, truly an insult to the kingdom of beef, throughout the same people choose to go against me, rather annoying that they don't give me a chance, and decide to criticize me rather than ask me constructive questions

Two things:
1) You could just be drawing attention to yourself so that we will think that you would be innocent, whereas you are in fact guilty. That is no proof and is a clear WIFOM situation.
2) If you simply address our criticisms point-by-point then there is no case you against you.

[Thermal]

Voting yourself is usually seen as scummy behaviour.

Also the "oh well, I'm just a townie, lynch me if you must" attitude is not very convincing at this stage of the current round. Add to that the fact that you did all you could to save your own skin so far.

recent post from andres no question asked there, but simply affirming something, instead of discussing it

I think Aries is a much better lynch candidate then CA.

again not a question, yet he doesn't even explain himself here

I suggest the role blocker blocks either Aries or Reenk Roink. Both are behaving suspicious.

a question? no, an explanation? no reenk roink isnt the only who doesnt explain himself, these are full quotes im taking, his explanations are pitiful

No lynch rounds don't get us anywhere. We won't get mafia if we don't lynch and at this pace, the town needs to take every opportunity it has to take out mafiosi.

Unvote : Reenk Roink;
Vote : Aries

Aries: 2 (Chaotix, Andres)
Andres: 1 (Aries)
Chaotix27: 1 (Reenk Roink)
CA: 1 (YLC)

And I suggest the role blocker to block Reenk Roink next night.

I heard rumours about the townie group not really being a townie group, but an attempt at fooling the mafia.

Or maybe the townie group really was a townie group and the mafia did get lucky...

Chew on that, mafiosi. You're not the only ones who can play mind games

White Eyes is no longer on my possible scum list at the moment.

EDIT: missed ATPG's post; White Eyes back on possible scum list.

he changes his vote to me without reason other than we need to get rid of mafia, which to be honest, you have no reason to believe

rumours of the townie group not being innocent, explain! god almighty
i thought he was contributing highly to avoid suspicion, but after reading his only 4 posts in the last 100 ive looked at, his sole contribuation arent helpful and more importantly, ask me NO questions

so CA where on earth are those questions you lied about asking?
There aren't any from him, the only reason i can see me being interrogated more perhaps is because i have a more unique playing style and Andres is a mod, something along those lines at my bidding, i'm convinced andres is mafia, and i've never been convinced like this is any game before, which is why i'm showing it so much attention

[Thermal]

jeez i play an active role and get 4 votes against me, yet some that have barely posted get none