The Absolutely Best Heavy Cavalry in EB...

[Cute Wolf]

Testing Bodyguards duel with their secondary weapons (with human (me and my friend) using double right click and pressing alt, done in multiplayer with a desktop PC and a Laptop) all formed into 2 men deep formations, and charge frontally each other) - using their highest stats bodyguards... (not highest price)

Pontos vs Hayasdan (11 vs 11)
1. Pontos win by luck (survive 2 men, hayasdan rout with 3 men (general dies))
2. Hayasdan win sightly (survive 2 men, pontos all killed)
3. Pontos win sightly (survive 3 men, hayasdan rout with 2 men (general dies))

Pontos vs Baktrian (11 vs 11)
1. Baktrian win (survive 5 men, pontos all killed)
2. Baktrian win (survive 7 men, pontos rout with 1 men (general dies))

Baktrian vs Hayasdan (11 vs 11)
1. Baktrian win (survive 7 men, hayasdan rout with 1 men (the general))

Saka vs Baktrian
1. Baktrian win sightly (survive 3 men, saka all killed)
2. Saka win by luck (survive 3 men, baktrian rout with 4 men (general dies))
3. Baktrian win in unbelievable state (only the general - the last fight was general vs general)
4. Baktrian win sightly (survive 2 men, saka all killed)

Conclusion : Hetairoi Kataphraktoi is the best...

[MerlinusCDXX]

Testing Bodyguards duel with their secondary weapons (with human (me and my friend) using double right click and pressing alt, done in multiplayer with a desktop PC and a Laptop) all formed into 2 men deep formations, and charge frontally each other) - using their highest stats bodyguards... (not highest price)

Pontos vs Hayasdan (11 vs 11)
1. Pontos win by luck (survive 2 men, hayasdan rout with 3 men (general dies))
2. Hayasdan win sightly (survive 2 men, pontos all killed)
3. Pontos win sightly (survive 3 men, hayasdan rout with 2 men (general dies))

Pontos vs Baktrian (11 vs 11)
1. Baktrian win (survive 5 men, pontos all killed)
2. Baktrian win (survive 7 men, pontos rout with 1 men (general dies))

Baktrian vs Hayasdan (11 vs 11)
1. Baktrian win (survive 7 men, hayasdan rout with 1 men (the general))

Saka vs Baktrian
1. Baktrian win sightly (survive 3 men, saka all killed)
2. Saka win by luck (survive 3 men, baktrian rout with 4 men (general dies))
3. Baktrian win in unbelievable state (only the general - the last fight was general vs general)
4. Baktrian win sightly (survive 2 men, saka all killed)

Conclusion : Hetairoi Kataphraktoi is the best...

That's a pretty good way of testing unit performance there. Could you test Pahlava Late vs Baktria, Saka, and Hayasdan (late model on all). Pontos Late BG are seriously outclassed by all 4 of the guys I just mentioned. I think they are the only Faction whose early BGs are actually better than the late model. I'm surprised the Pontic BGs did so well against the Hayasdan BGs, since the Pontics aren't really armored well enough to merit the Cataphract label.

[Cute Wolf]

I use Pontos Early, Hayasdan Early, Baktrian late, and Saka late...and oops I forgot to use the hayasdan late BG because the Pontos and Hayasdan name are somewhat similar (khuvesvang.. bleh...) next time better...

I test Pontos early Bodyguard (17 armor, 12 def skill)... they are better than their late counterparts ( 15 armor, 12 def skill) and actually I prefer to use the early bodyguards for my pontos army...

Maybe I'll just have to say that we (I and my friends who help me to just pick to click the mouse and pressing alt) didn't have the same experience in playing TW (he normally play DOTA with me, and only play TW rarely(3/4 times)). for some reason, I suggest you to try to test it with 2 men that have the same experience handling the TW-styled battle... I run this test just out of curiousity of all your posts here...

[A Terribly Harmful Name]

Baktrian bodyguards have that nice AP Kopis as secondary weapon, and that actually makes them better in melee than nomad bodyguards that only have a lance to use. Even the early ones.

[MerlinusCDXX]

I use Pontos Early, Hayasdan Early, Baktrian late, and Saka late...and oops I forgot to use the hayasdan late BG ...

Ah, that's why Pontic BG did so well against Hayasdan. Their early BGs are actually the same unit (Khuveshavagan-Shah, or something like it, that's what he says when you select him in battle ). I though you tested the late BGs, as per the elite Cataphract BG discussion (they are all late model), which is why I was confused as to why the Pontic BGs did so well.

[Obelics]

Testing Bodyguards duel with their secondary weapons (with human (me and my friend) using double right click and pressing alt, done in multiplayer with a desktop PC and a Laptop) all formed into 2 men deep formations, and charge frontally each other) - using their highest stats bodyguards... (not highest price)

Pontos vs Hayasdan (11 vs 11)
1. Pontos win by luck (survive 2 men, hayasdan rout with 3 men (general dies))
2. Hayasdan win sightly (survive 2 men, pontos all killed)
3. Pontos win sightly (survive 3 men, hayasdan rout with 2 men (general dies))

Pontos vs Baktrian (11 vs 11)
1. Baktrian win (survive 5 men, pontos all killed)
2. Baktrian win (survive 7 men, pontos rout with 1 men (general dies))

Baktrian vs Hayasdan (11 vs 11)
1. Baktrian win (survive 7 men, hayasdan rout with 1 men (the general))

Saka vs Baktrian
1. Baktrian win sightly (survive 3 men, saka all killed)
2. Saka win by luck (survive 3 men, baktrian rout with 4 men (general dies))
3. Baktrian win in unbelievable state (only the general - the last fight was general vs general)
4. Baktrian win sightly (survive 2 men, saka all killed)

Conclusion : Hetairoi Kataphraktoi is the best...

have you tryed the Pahlava Grinpanvar Vs the Baktrian Bodyguards? that would be interesting, im curious on the match of 0.225 lethality of the Pahlavans vs the AP of the Baktrians.
Also i would test it in 2 different ways, one with 0 Experience both, and one with 3 experience, that multiplayer test is a great idea! (but i know is very difficult to arrange)

[artavazd]

you should be testing the four "elite" ones. Late Armenian BG, Late Parthian BG, Late Baktrian Bg, and Late Saka BG. My hunch is that the Late Saka BG will be the best because of their heavier armor and AP pick axe.

[Cute Wolf]

Testing Saka Late, Phalava Late, Baktria Late, and Hayasdan Late (0 exp 0 upgrade, same unit size as before) ...

Saka Late vs Baktria Late
1. Baktria win (survive 4, saka all dies)
2. Baktria win sightly (survive 2, saka all dies)
3. Saka win by luck (survive 3, Baktrian rout with 5 men (general dies in the first charge T.T))
4. Baktria win (survive 5, saka rout with 3 men (general dies))

Saka Late vs Phalava Late
1. Saka win sightly (survive 2, Phalavan all dies)
2. Saka win sightly (survive 3, Phalavan rout with 1 men (general dies))
3. Saka win sightly (survive 3, Phalavan rout with 3 men (general dies))
4. Phalavans win sightly (survive 2, saka rout with 1 men (the general))

Baktria Late vs Hayasdan Late
1. Baktrian win sightly (survive 3 (general dies), Hayasdan all dies)
2. Baktrian win (survive 4 men, Hayasdan all dies)

Baktria Late vs Phalava Late (try to switch laptop and desktop control in turns 6&7)
1. Phalavan win (survive 4 men, Baktria all dies)
2. Phalavan win (survive 5 men, Baktria rout with 3 men (general dies))
3. Phalavan win sightly (survive 2 men, Baktria all dies)
4. Phalavan win (survive 3 men, Baktria rout with 1 men (the general))
5. Phalavan win sightly (survive 2 men, Baktria all dies)
6. Phalavan win by luck (survive 3 men, Baktria rout with 5 men (general dies in the first charge T.T))
7. Phalavan win sightly (survive 2 men, Baktria all dies)

I certainly disbelief my own tests results, especially the phalavans and baktrians... Baktrians are better than saka, saka pawned Phalavans, but why Phalavans pawned Baktrians?