Things you learned from playing vanilla RTW

[coalition]

And for Alexander

I learned while garrisoning the town "Bactria", Alexander acquired the trait "Sober". I found it strange considering he was an alcoholic.

[Ibrahim]

I learned from BI vanilla that my ancestors were perfume wearing, silk cushioned pansies whose best troops can't even fight the lowest grade romans and sassanids, and had not the slightest hint of civilization (guess that's jahiliyyah). same for the amazighen*

I learned that the romans in BI had crappy troops, with less armor and training of the days of Caesar.*(yeah, right-way more complex)

I learned that the sassanids had exactly the same basic all cavalry cruddy infantry of the Parthians (In RTW Vanilla)*.


*I knew better.

this makes me wonder:

@TPC: Arabs in Sweden are telling ye that pre-Islamic north arabians (Arabs) had nothing? If so, there is a SERIOUS misunderstanding on there part

[Uticensis]

1) I learned that Scipio,Scipionis was actually a second declension noun
2)I learned that the Romans had to build the Pantheon in order to learn how to construct the Covus
3)I learned that militia hoplites were so poor that they couldn't even afford shirts
4)I learned that Parthia was clearly the richest Empire at the time because all of them, even the peasants, could afford to dye all their clothes purple
5)I learned that nobody lived north of Hadrian's Wall. In fact, the only reason the Romans didn't expand north of their British provinces was because there was nothing there, it was literally the edge of the world.

[Hax]

Actually, it's where the term "Black hole" stems from.

[mikil100]

I learned that if you have two units of Praetorian units of Cavalry nothing can beat you, no matter the quality of your infantry.
I also learned that America was even more influenced by Romans than I previously thought, even our accents are similar!

[Skullheadhq]

I'm sorry, but all those questions that you guys came up with I don't think ten percent of the population anywhere in the world be able to answer those.

I think more basic questions like these would be more along the lines of answerable queries.

"What is your name?"
"How old are you?"
"Do you like ice cream?"


I kid. But I'm serious, some questions are extremely specific. The first two, about Hannibal and Carthage seem decent enough, but asking about Baktria and the development of Roman military tactics would be too much for people who don't even know where Iraq is.

I'm not even being a elitist snob.

Questions maybe like this could be acceptable:

Who were the Romans?
Who was murdered by his fellow senators, uttering the famous lines "Et tu, Brutus?"
Who were the Celts? Where did they live?
Who was Hannibal, and where did he come from?
Describe Pre-Dark Ages history of the British Isles.

If Caesar really spoke out these legendary words, It would be: Et tu Brute.
Vocative, Vocative!!

[Hax]

I always thought he said "και συ, τεκνον?"

[Wausser]

yeah some say he said it in greek....

[Ibrahim]

I always thought he said "και συ, τεκνον?"

either suetonius or Tacitus, just can't remember.

[General Appo]

I always thought he said "και συ, τεκνον?"

Actually Hax, that would be "καὶ σὺ τέκνον".
Diacritics, Diacritics!!

Which of course is far from "You too, Brutus?", more like "You too, my child?". Personally I prefer the version were Ceasar says "You too my son", not as a question, but in reference to a well-known Greek sentence "You too my son, will have a taste of power.", foreshadowing Brutus own violent (though slightly less involuntary) death.

Of course, most likely he didn´t say nothing, just like Plutarch and Suetonius reports.

[General Appo]

either suetonius or Tacitus, just can't remember.

Suetonius said that some people claimed Ceasar said "καὶ σὺ τέκνον" when he died, though Suetonius himself claims that Ceasar didn´t actually say anything at all.
IIRC, no ancient historian what so ever claims Ceasar said anything in Latin. Not sure who first used it in Latin, oldest I can find is in Richard Eedes' Latin play Caesar Interfectus, 1582, though it appears it might have been used before that.

[kekailoa]

If Caesar really spoke out these legendary words, It would be: Et tu Brute.
Vocative, Vocative!!

I apologize.

Latin has never been my strong suit. In fact, I know all my latin from this forum and EB.

That's pretty bad.

[Novellus]

I learned that:

The world is really flat

The Oliphaunt actually existed

Phalanxes settled disputes with dance-offs-- no actual fighting took place

An army of dogs led by a general could defeat an army of generals led by the AI