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    Chieftain of the Pudding Race Member Evil_Maniac From Mars's Avatar
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    Default Re: Vatican forgives Galileo after only 400 years

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    I believe Galileo was technically forgiven in 1741 by Pope Benedict XIV.
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    Default Re: Vatican forgives Galileo after only 400 years

    Yeah, funny thing about heresy: if your own religion started as a heresy of another earlier religion (which most of them did do), what posssible leg has any heretic to stand on? Hypocrisy? Inconsistency?

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    The current Pope decided to forgive Galileo for the deadly sin of questioning church authority.

    How very generous of him

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    Default Re: Vatican forgives Galileo after only 400 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Evil_Maniac From Mars View Post
    EDIT: This post appears to be "missed" by many, so I'll bold and underline it...

    I believe Galileo was technically forgiven in 1741 by Pope Benedict XIV.
    It was a rather informal one.

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    The Pope is missing the point.....Galileo has nothing to be forgiven for....


    now if all of us forgive the Church for what it did to Galileo....now that´s another matter.
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    Default Re: Vatican forgives Galileo after only 400 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    The Pope is missing the point.....Galileo has nothing to be forgiven for....


    now if all of us forgive the Church for what it did to Galileo....now that´s another matter.
    That pretty much sums up my feelings toward Papal Authority. That and this song.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ronin View Post
    The Pope is missing the point.....Galileo has nothing to be forgiven for....


    now if all of us forgive the Church for what it did to Galileo....now that´s another matter.
    Quote for the win.

    The Church's authority was diminishing because the act of questioning in this instance has been proven so well to be correct. This has given leverage to other questions. So it is a matter of self preservation to remove this as a 'bad act' so that it stops giving momentum to other questing.

    To be so categorically wrong in something that has such easy physical substance to measure would take a toll on its authority in all arenas. So this isn't just a matter of doing the right thing for the right thing. It is a act of self preservation.
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    Default Re: Vatican forgives Galileo after only 400 years

    I wonder what the Catholic church says about the Inquisition in general?

    Man I have problems with institutionalised religion. Makes me cringe; its just men pretending to have God's authority to bend the will of men and therefore gain power for themselves.
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    Default Re: Vatican forgives Galileo after only 400 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Lorenzo_H View Post
    I wonder what the Catholic church says about the Inquisition in general?

    Man I have problems with institutionalised religion. Makes me cringe; its just men pretending to have God's authority to bend the will of men and therefore gain power for themselves.

    That's precisely what it is. I am amazed that there are people who actually know how the church came about, know it's history, know the laws, know how the Bible came to be, etc, are familiar with both history and science, continue to support the church.
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    Default Re: Vatican forgives Galileo after only 400 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    That's precisely what it is. I am amazed that there are people who actually know how the church came about, know it's history, know the laws, know how the Bible came to be, etc, are familiar with both history and science, continue to support the church.
    That would be me. Although it depends on your definition of "The Church", if you mean the Roman Church, I don't support that but not agreeing with the Pope is different from rejecting all organised religion. At one time scientists believed that the walls of the heart were prous and that we had two jaw bones. They don't anymore, but it was the view up until around 1600.

    I believe it is wrong to link the past of any organised religion to God, unless you actually believe God decided what those men did. which atheists don't because they don't believe he exists.

    I've never understood that, "I God exists he must be evil because of the things people have done in his name."

    Pape is right about this though, it's an embarressment to the Roman Catholic Church.
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    Default Re: Vatican forgives Galileo after only 400 years

    Quote Originally Posted by Askthepizzaguy View Post
    That's precisely what it is. I am amazed that there are people who actually know how the church came about, know it's history, know the laws, know how the Bible came to be, etc, are familiar with both history and science, continue to support the church.
    Completely agreed. Maybe they just hope they will get a little piece of Paradise.
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