Greatest Badboy People and Nations per Century

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

We could attach that label to Putin for the Chechen War and Georgia.

[CountArach]

We could attach that label to Putin for the Chechen War and Georgia.

True, though I think that those wars were much smaller than Iraq and Afghanistan, not only for the length of time they were actively fought, but also in terms of manpower and casualties.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

True, though I think that those wars were much smaller than Iraq and Afghanistan, not only for the length of time they were actively fought, but also in terms of manpower and casualties.

Certainly true about the Georgian conflict, though I think the Second Chechen War and Afghanistan may be similar in terms of death toll and scale.

[Sarmatian]

Certainly true about the Georgian conflict, though I think the Second Chechen War and Afghanistan may be similar in terms of death toll and scale.

Chechnya is a part of Russian Federation so there was no invasion of a foreign country.

In case of Georgia, it was very limited to area around South Ossetia and wasn't an invasion in true sense of the word and there was no toppling of the regime in Georgia...

In the cases of Iraq and Afghanistan, it was a clear invasion and it involved changing the government in both countries...

[Conradus]

Chechnya is a part of Russian Federation so there was no invasion of a foreign country.

In case of Georgia, it was very limited to area around South Ossetia and wasn't an invasion in true sense of the word and there was no toppling of the regime in Georgia...

In the cases of Iraq and Afghanistan, it was a clear invasion and it involved changing the government in both countries...

That doesn't really matter for the inhabitants of Cechnya now does it?
It's still a war.

And what would you call Russian troops on Georgian territory if not an invasion?

[Sarmatian]

That doesn't really matter for the inhabitants of Cechnya now does it?
It's still a war.

And what would you call Russian troops on Georgian territory if not an invasion?

Jolt made it pretty clear - using force to attack and conquer other nations etc...

Chechnya is not the other nation, it's not a sovereign country and neither it was at any point during the conflict, it is and was a part of the Russian Federation.

I said that in case of Georgia - it wasn't an invasion in the true sense of the word, because if it were, you would see Russian troops in Grozny and you wouldn't have Saakashvili in power now...

If you try to look at it that way than you would also have to count NATO troops in Kosovo as an invasion of Serbia...

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

In case of Georgia, it was very limited to area around South Ossetia and wasn't an invasion in true sense of the word and there was no toppling of the regime in Georgia...

I supported it and it still looked a lot like an invasion.