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    Quote Originally Posted by Productivity View Post
    The reason Australia voted to keep the monarchy is because the referendum and public debate was hijacked by a devoted monarchist and put a flawed question to the people, splitting the republican vote.
    Gah! Beaten to it again!
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    Rather than doing the sensible thing of running a series of plebiscites, first asking do you want a republic (for which there is over 50% support)
    55% support was the latest poll IIRC.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    What? That he married the Queen and sacrificed a glittering naval career?
    No, I m sure the queen was a fine piece of when she was young

    Its just that the man is a walking joke.

    I hate it when the media say he is 'Greek'. Not a drop of Greek blood in him whatsoever. German/Danish inbred dude with a whole lot of Altzheimers. Plain and simple.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CountArach View Post
    Gah! Beaten to it again!

    55% support was the latest poll IIRC.
    I was amazed you hadn't posted about that yet TBH.

    If you (and anyone else interested in Australian constitutional politics) haven't seen it allready you may be interested in this.

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    I hate it when the media say he is 'Greek'. Not a drop of Greek blood in him whatsoever. German/Danish inbred dude with a whole lot of Altzheimers. Plain and simple.
    He was born at Mon Repos on Kerkyra. That makes him a Greek. I know that the mainland Greeks look upon Corfiats as a bit simple* but last time I looked it was still in Greece.

    *As is Phil.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rasoforos View Post
    No, I m sure the queen was a fine piece of when she was young

    Its just that the man is a walking joke.

    I hate it when the media say he is 'Greek'. Not a drop of Greek blood in him whatsoever. German/Danish inbred dude with a whole lot of Altzheimers. Plain and simple.
    Phil is awesome, i have a great deal of respect for him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    He was born at Mon Repos on Kerkyra. That makes him a Greek.
    Never! They play cricket over there u know!
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    Actually I do know. Still Greek though.
    There are times I wish they’d just ban everything- baccy and beer, burgers and bangers, and all the rest- once and for all. Instead, they creep forward one apparently tiny step at a time. It’s like being executed with a bacon slicer.

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    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by InsaneApache View Post
    He was born at Mon Repos on Kerkyra. That makes him a Greek. I know that the mainland Greeks look upon Corfiats as a bit simple* but last time I looked it was still in Greece.

    *As is Phil.
    I honestly think it's an act. He's worked out he can insult people with impunity and he constantly tries to outdo himself, he's not simple.
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    Marvellous stuff.

    You know, if Devastatin' Dave wasn't so blisteringly American, on reading those quotes I'd begin to wonder at the possibilities...
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    Quote Originally Posted by rasoforos View Post
    Truly hilarious

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    I now love Prince Philip
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    Quote Originally Posted by rasoforos View Post
    Prince Philip of Greece, rich enough to say what he wants.
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    Brilliant!
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    Ugh, the sensibilities of the amoral British press, how pathetic.

    I love how the press are so often the first to bash the Royal family for unseemly behaviour while keeping us in the dark about their chums in the City.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    Interesting how that is on the front page, but on the sidebar there are much more important stories. For example:

    -British climbers die in the Alps
    -Saudi tanker crew 'safe and well'
    -Biden and Karzai in Kabul meeting
    -Obama plan 'could create 4m jobs'
    -Games will 'eclipse' other media

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    Recent events have made me to believe that there is a genetic cause. There seems to be a hereditary effect...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7822574.stm

    I would like to encourage the scientific community to try to locate this so-called 'Prince Philip gene' in an effort to assist the poor victims of this Royal ailment so they can live a normal life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasoforos View Post
    Recent events have made me to believe that there is a genetic cause. There seems to be a hereditary effect...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7822574.stm

    I would like to encourage the scientific community to try to locate this so-called 'Prince Philip gene' in an effort to assist the poor victims of this Royal ailment so they can live a normal life.

    Isn't that the same article?

    And so what? How is it anyone's business? Have you never said anything silly?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rasoforos View Post
    Recent events have made me to believe that there is a genetic cause. There seems to be a hereditary effect...

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/7822574.stm

    I would like to encourage the scientific community to try to locate this so-called 'Prince Philip gene' in an effort to assist the poor victims of this Royal ailment so they can live a normal life.

    i would like to see the Phil gene spliced into every human being, it would increase the sum total of human backbone by a considerable amount!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bopa the Magyar View Post
    Isn't that the same article?

    And so what? How is it anyone's business? Have you never said anything silly?
    Well to be honest it is peoples business. if anyone else made comments like this then fair enough, it is there personnel opinion but the fact is he's a member of the royal family.

    I'm pretty sure all members of the royal family, or at least the queen does, has to swear that they will give their lives in serving their country. That is their only job and they are expected to do it. Now that's where people are seeing the problem at. If this guy did become King I don't think it would be all that great if our head of state for the rest of the world though that people with darker skin were "pakis" or "rag heads" would it?

    Anyway I just posted to article for amusement. I to hate political correctness gone mad. The issue doesn't particularly bother me personally just found it hilarious that this guy can get in trouble with the press yet again.


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    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    Well to be honest it is peoples business. if anyone else made comments like this then fair enough, it is there personnel opinion but the fact is he's a member of the royal family.

    I'm pretty sure all members of the royal family, or at least the queen does, has to swear that they will give their lives in serving their country. That is their only job and they are expected to do it. Now that's where people are seeing the problem at. If this guy did become King I don't think it would be all that great if our head of state for the rest of the world though that people with darker skin were "pakis" or "rag heads" would it?

    Anyway I just posted to article for amusement. I to hate political correctness gone mad. The issue doesn't particularly bother me personally just found it hilarious that this guy can get in trouble with the press yet again.
    Both those terms are very current in our armed forces right now because of the enemy they are fighting. That doesn't make it right, but it's across the board and Harry has integrated into that culture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    Both those terms are very current in our armed forces right now because of the enemy they are fighting. That doesn't make it right, but it's across the board and Harry has integrated into that culture.

    Yer, it's probably more an issue with the attitude in the armed forces than his. I remember watching a documentary on BBC3 a while back following a soldier in Afghanistan and the word "rag head" was used quite commonly. Even more senior staff were using it.


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    Certainly not needed, but it's nice to have them. It's good to think that whilst having all these idiots like Blair, Brown and Thatcher in government, we still have Queen Lizzy to tell themall to calm down. Plus, they have no real power and cost the taxpayer basically nothing (Less than 1p from every £10) So I can't see any reason to get rid of them and destroy a 1,500 year old tradition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    Yer, it's probably more an issue with the attitude in the armed forces than his. I remember watching a documentary on BBC3 a while back following a soldier in Afghanistan and the word "rag head" was used quite commonly. Even more senior staff were using it.
    There is no issue with their attitude. They demonise their enemy in order to fight him, would you rather they were all psychopaths capable of killing ordinary decent human beings?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philipvs Vallindervs Calicvla View Post
    There is no issue with their attitude. They demonise their enemy in order to fight him, would you rather they were all psychopaths capable of killing ordinary decent human beings?

    So by calling his own comrade a "paki and "rag head" what was harry hopping to do, demonise him?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Productivity
    The reason Australia voted to keep the monarchy is because the referendum and public debate was hijacked by a devoted monarchist and put a flawed question to the people, splitting the republican vote.
    Just curious, what were the options?

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    You vote in Parliament and then the MPs choose the president... no direct election allowed. Just a President who replaces the GG... essentially the MPs choose their umpire, and the people get zero choice in the matter. No real change, so no one wanted it because it didn't change enough... why shuffle papers when bigger issues are at foot and you want bigger change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by tibilicus View Post
    So by calling his own comrade a "paki and "rag head" what was harry hopping to do, demonise him?
    No, he was joking around. Honestly, one of the greatest English expressions I have ever heard is "suck it up," and it applies perfectly in this case.

    Great quote from the Paradox Forum:

    "Honestly, Harry was joking around with a guy he was training with. I don't see it as that big of a deal. It shouldn't be the word itself that is offensive, but rather if it was said with malice, which it clearly was not.

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    Now this may surprise some of you but every so often I like to make an off color joke with some off color words. If every time I did that, someone told on me to a British newspaper. Well frankly there isnt enough paper.
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