Last edited by Banquo's Ghost; 01-17-2009 at 09:46. Reason: Edited quote
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Well yes, that would be the point. If anyone didn't understand it, I don't in any way "criticize" this guy. I'm criticizing the symbolisms. Isn't it worth anything to be honoured for having done a good job? Do we have to label everyone and their grandma a hero before we care?
EDIT: reworded to make things clearer.
Last edited by HoreTore; 01-17-2009 at 08:27.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Why? Because I think telling someone they've done a great job is a compliment?
I'm not saying not to care about this, I'm not saying that he shouldn't get the ceremonies, thanks and gratitude he has received. What I'm saying is that the word "hero" is wrong in this case, and that it shouldn't be necessary for people to do heroic(in the true sense of the word) things before they are honoured. Simply doing what you're supposed to do with great skill should be more than enough to be honoured, all the more so when peoples lives are saved because you managed to do it right. I don't see why we should limit celebrations and thanks only to "heroes".
Last edited by HoreTore; 01-17-2009 at 08:32.
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
Do note that we have higher wages as well
And anyway, this is a debate forum, right? What we do here is debate? What's the point of a thread if noone is debating?
but yes, norway is hellishly cold. But it always warms my heart that I'm no longer in Northern Norway.... -45 degrees celcius, now that's bone-freezing...
Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban
Last edited by Strike For The South; 01-17-2009 at 08:39.
There, but for the grace of God, goes John Bradford
My aim, then, was to whip the rebels, to humble their pride, to follow them to their inmost recesses, and make them fear and dread us. Fear is the beginning of wisdom.
I am tired and sick of war. Its glory is all moonshine. It is only those who have neither fired a shot nor heard the shrieks and groans of the wounded who cry aloud for blood, for vengeance, for desolation.
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