Two ceasefires ...

[HoreTore]

A small question:

Were cluster bombs used in Gaza?

[KukriKhan]

The blogosphere is divided about 50-50 on that question. The major media says: "No" (so far). I haven't found any pics/video of them being used.

[rasoforos]

http://edition.cnn.com/video/#/video...cking.news.cnn

This video says much about the situation to my opinion...

The only purpose served is that good people, thousands of them, will turn into fanatics due to the actions of two very immoral governments.

The quota of civilians was reached and its a technical timeout for adverts...

[Fragony]

I am amazed

[Guildenstern]

I am amazed

I'm amazed by the number of Gazans who died in this 22 day war.

And all this war for what? Has Hamas been weakened?

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

I'm amazed by the number of Gazans who died in this 22 day war.

I'm amazed by the fairly good number of Hamas militants that were killed. Good on Israel.

[Strike For The South]

*yawn*

[HoreTore]

I'm amazed by the fairly good number of Hamas militants that were killed. Good on Israel.

Uhm..... And just how many was that, really? A hundred? "Wow".

[CountArach]

I'm amazed by the fairly good number of Hamas militants that were killed. Good on Israel.

And how many people saw their relatives killed for no good reason? How many of these people will become militants?

[Kralizec]

A small question:

Were cluster bombs used in Gaza?

Not that I'm aware of, but Hamas claims Israel used white phosphorous on one occasion.

[Che Roriniho]

Not that I'm aware of, but Hamas claims Israel used white phosphorous on one occasion.

No, they did, on the UN Building. What utter Bastards the Israelis have been. Won't let any medicine in, and they bomb the stuff that's already there.

[Furunculus]

No, they did, on the UN Building. What utter Bastards the Israelis have been. Won't let any medicine in, and they bomb the stuff that's already there.

do you want to dig out a link for that champ? i.e. some reputable news source that confirms that cluster munitions were in fact dropped on the UN building.

p.s. if it turned out that the israelies had not, would that alter your opinion that they had been utter bastards?

[CountArach]

do you want to dig out a link for that champ? i.e. some reputable news source that confirms that cluster munitions were in fact dropped on the UN building.

p.s. if it turned out that the israelies had not, would that alter your opinion that they had been utter bastards?

You misunderstand him - he was talking about the use of white phosphorous, not the use of cluster munitions.

Can someone explain to me what was gained out of this invasion?

[Che Roriniho]

Can someone explain to me what was gained out of this invasion?

Basically nothing, except the reason for more suicide bombings. Well done Israel, you really are quite Stupid.

[HoreTore]

do you want to dig out a link for that champ? i.e. some reputable news source that confirms that cluster munitions were in fact dropped on the UN building.

From haaretz.com:

The ground invasion was preceded by large-scale artillery shelling from around 4 P.M., intended to "soften" the targets as artillery batteries deployed along the Strip in recent days began bombarding Hamas targets and open areas near the border. Hundreds of shells were fired, including cluster bombs aimed at open areas.

Hmmmmmm.......

[Tribesman]

Can someone explain to me what was gained out of this invasion?

Well it screwed Fatah didn't it , that must have been the intention so it counts as a gain for the Israeli government doesn't it .

Hore those cluster munitions your post refers to is the bombardment of the bulldozed areas next to the prison fence to clear any possible landmines so it doesn't count on the list of war crimes commited during this pointless little middle eastern episode .

[HoreTore]

Hore those cluster munitions your post refers to is the bombardment of the bulldozed areas next to the prison fence to clear any possible landmines so it doesn't count on the list of war crimes commited during this pointless little middle eastern episode .

Ah.

But what's the point in clearing land mines by dropping in a bunch of new land mines?

[Fragony]

well,



But I couldn't care less really.

[Evil_Maniac From Mars]

Not that I'm aware of, but Hamas claims Israel used white phosphorous on one occasion.

Rather ironic considering that Hamas also fired white phosphorous shells. At any rate, white phosphorous is legal if used as a screening tool - and as of yet, I don't think that there is any reliable evidence that it was or was not used to screen.

[HoreTore]

Not that I'm aware of, but Hamas claims Israel used white phosphorous on one occasion.

I know the general status on phosphorous and DIME weapons, but I haven't heard much of cluster bombs... But I suppose we would know it if they did use them, as the sound they make is very distinctive, and the journalists were within hearing range of Gaza, and Gilbert and Fosse would've heard them from Shifa...

They dropped a truckload of cluster bombs on Lebanon(IIRC, almost every cluster bomb used was fired during that last day) during the last 12 hours before the ceasefire there, it'll be interesting to find out if they did the same thing this time.... And if they didn't, then why they chose not to do it this time.