Results 1 to 30 of 201

Thread: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Arena Senior Member Crazed Rabbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Between the Mountain and the Sound
    Posts
    11,074
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Paterson has appointed an upstate NRA-backed conservative Dem congresswoman!

    ALBANY - Gov. Paterson, defying the liberal wing of his Democratic Party, has chosen little-known, NRA-backed, upstate Congresswoman Kirsten Gillibrand to succeed Hillary Rodham Clinton as New York's junior senator, it was learned last night.

    The surprising - and, for many Democrats shocking - decision to pick the conservative Gillibrand, 42, from Hudson in Columbia County, was disclosed by the governor in calls to party officials and some members of the state's congressional delegation, many of whom said they were unhappy with the selection, sources said.
    Hahaha! This is great! So much better than Andrew "End Run Around the Constitution" Cuomo!

    CR
    Ja Mata, Tosa.

    The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder

  2. #2
    Nobody expects the Senior Member Lemur's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Wisconsin Death Trip
    Posts
    15,754

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    I'm just glad it's not another Kennedy. Down with dynasties!

  3. #3
    has a Senior Member HoreTore's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2005
    Location
    Norway
    Posts
    12,014

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    I'm just glad it's not another Kennedy. Down with dynasties!
    Bah!

    Admit it, you envy our dynastic ways! You're just jealous because our dynasties are proper inbreds, unlike yours!
    Still maintain that crying on the pitch should warrant a 3 match ban

  4. #4
    Poll Smoker Senior Member CountArach's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2006
    Location
    Sydney, Australia
    Posts
    9,029

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Quote Originally Posted by HoreTore View Post
    Bah!

    Admit it, you envy our dynastic ways! You're just jealous because our dynasties are proper inbreds, unlike yours!
    American ones just act like inbreds.
    Rest in Peace TosaInu, the Org will be your legacy
    Quote Originally Posted by Leon Blum - For All Mankind
    Nothing established by violence and maintained by force, nothing that degrades humanity and is based on contempt for human personality, can endure.

  5. #5
    Nobody expects the Senior Member Lemur's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Wisconsin Death Trip
    Posts
    15,754

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Today is a great day for lizard people.


    A three-judge panel ruled that as many as 4,790 rejected absentee ballots can be considered for inclusion in the Minnesota Senate recount, adding a new wrinkle to the long-lasting Minnesota Senate recount between Coleman and Al Franken.

    The court ruling is a victory for Coleman’s camp, which has been trying to get thousands of additional ballots counted in its efforts to overturn Franken’s 225-vote lead over Coleman.

    The inclusion of these absentee ballots is at the center of the Coleman’s camp’s legal challenge. [...]

    So only a subset of the 4,700 absentee ballots -- identified by the Coleman camp -- will be added to the count. The inclusion of additional ballots could be enough to shrink Franken’s lead, but unless most of them end up being included, it would still be difficult for Coleman to overturn his 225-vote deficit.

  6. #6
    Nobody expects the Senior Member Lemur's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Wisconsin Death Trip
    Posts
    15,754

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    More bad news for Coleman. But then, he took a lobbying job already, so I guess he kind of knew this wasn't going to go his way.

    The judges in Minnesota's U.S. Senate trial say Republican Norm Coleman has not yet shown a widespread problem with absentee voters being denied the right to vote.

    In a ruling Friday, the three-judge panel says rejected absentee ballots in 12 of 19 categories should not be counted in the Senate race. That's a setback for Coleman, who wanted to count ballots in all but three categories.

    Coleman is trying to undo Democrat Al Franken's 225-vote lead by arguing that thousands of rejected absentee ballots should be counted. But the order from the judges will limit the number of ballots to be reviewed for counting.

  7. #7
    Master of Few Words Senior Member KukriKhan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2001
    Posts
    10,415

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Wut a way to run a railroad.
    Be well. Do good. Keep in touch.

  8. #8
    Swarthylicious Member Spino's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2002
    Location
    Brooklyn, New York
    Posts
    2,604

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Today is a great day for lizard people.

    A three-judge panel ruled that as many as 4,790 rejected absentee ballots can be considered for inclusion in the Minnesota Senate recount, adding a new wrinkle to the long-lasting Minnesota Senate recount between Coleman and Al Franken.

    The court ruling is a victory for Coleman’s camp, which has been trying to get thousands of additional ballots counted in its efforts to overturn Franken’s 225-vote lead over Coleman.

    The inclusion of these absentee ballots is at the center of the Coleman’s camp’s legal challenge. [...]

    So only a subset of the 4,700 absentee ballots -- identified by the Coleman camp -- will be added to the count. The inclusion of additional ballots could be enough to shrink Franken’s lead, but unless most of them end up being included, it would still be difficult for Coleman to overturn his 225-vote deficit.
    Sammy Sleestack will have his day in court! The Lizard People have spoken!


    "Why spoil the beauty of the thing with legality?" - Theodore Roosevelt

    Idealism is masturbation, but unlike real masturbation idealism actually makes one blind. - Fragony

    Though Adrian did a brilliant job of defending the great man that is Hugo Chavez, I decided to post this anyway.. - JAG (who else?)

  9. #9
    Nobody expects the Senior Member Lemur's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Wisconsin Death Trip
    Posts
    15,754

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Now Coleman suggests a do-over election. If Franken agreed, who would foot the bill for another election? Does this sound workable or advisable to anyone?

    [Coleman said] "Yeah, you know some folks are now talking about simply saying run it again, just run it again."

    "Have another statewide election?" Wilkow asked.

    Coleman responded: "You know the St. Paul Pioneer Press is...one of the second largest papers in the state, last week [they] said we're never going to figure this out, just run it again. So you start hearing that. Ultimately the court has to make a determination, can they confirm, can they certify who got the most legally cast votes?"

  10. #10
    Part-Time Polemic Senior Member ICantSpellDawg's Avatar
    Join Date
    Oct 2002
    Location
    U.S.
    Posts
    7,237

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Paterson has appointed an upstate NRA-backed conservative Dem congresswoman!



    Hahaha! This is great! So much better than Andrew "End Run Around the Constitution" Cuomo!

    CR
    I'm psyched. That was clearly a responsible and relatively middle ground appointment. If she doesn't turn out to be a psycho hose-beast, I might vote for her just to keep her in action. No more Hillary and her ilk. I've always even liked Chuck Schumer - honorable people who care about New York and have some talent.

    Clinton is a monster. Kennedy is an entitled dud.

    Dynasties and Royalty can create great heirs and heroes, but they also have more instances of inbreeding. JFK seemed like a dynastic talent, George H W Bush had a special knack for foreign policy, etc.
    Filter them out mercilessly and maybe you'll find one or two worth voting for.
    Last edited by ICantSpellDawg; 01-23-2009 at 16:32.
    "That rifle hanging on the wall of the working-class flat or labourer's cottage is the symbol of democracy. It is our job to see that it stays there."
    -Eric "George Orwell" Blair

    "If the policy of the government, upon vital questions affecting the whole people, is to be irrevocably fixed by decisions of the Supreme Court...the people will have ceased to be their own rulers, having to that extent practically resigned the government into the hands of that eminent tribunal."
    (Lincoln's First Inaugural Address, 1861).
    ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

  11. #11
    Praefectus Fabrum Senior Member Anime BlackJack Champion, Flash Poker Champion, Word Up Champion, Shape Game Champion, Snake Shooter Champion, Fishwater Challenge Champion, Rocket Racer MX Champion, Jukebox Hero Champion, My House Is Bigger Than Your House Champion, Funky Pong Champion, Cutie Quake Champion, Fling The Cow Champion, Tiger Punch Champion, Virus Champion, Solitaire Champion, Worm Race Champion, Rope Walker Champion, Penguin Pass Champion, Skate Park Champion, Watch Out Champion, Lawn Pac Champion, Weapons Of Mass Destruction Champion, Skate Boarder Champion, Lane Bowling Champion, Bugz Champion, Makai Grand Prix 2 Champion, White Van Man Champion, Parachute Panic Champion, BlackJack Champion, Stans Ski Jumping Champion, Smaugs Treasure Champion, Sofa Longjump Champion Seamus Fermanagh's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2005
    Location
    Latibulm mali regis in muris.
    Posts
    11,454

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Quote Originally Posted by TuffStuffMcGruff View Post
    I'm psyched. That was clearly a responsible and relatively middle ground appointment. If she doesn't turn out to be a psycho hose-beast, I might vote for her just to keep her in action. No more Hillary and her ilk. I've always even liked Chuck Schumer - honorable people who care about New York and have some talent.

    Clinton is a monster. Kennedy is an entitled dud.

    Dynasties and Royalty can create great heirs and heroes, but they also have more instances of inbreeding. JFK seemed like a dynastic talent, George H W Bush had a special knack for foreign policy, etc.
    Filter them out mercilessly and maybe you'll find one or two worth voting for.
    I'm a bit more cynical than you with this. Paterson is looking to win a gubernatorial election not too long from now. To do so, he needs upstate votes and not just NYC & Albany. This is a good tool for doing that -- picks off middle-of-the-road types for him. Moreover, I think Cuomo has his sights set on the same office, though maybe a term or two further down the road.

    Clinton is not a monster, just amoral -- not that this makes me all "warm and fuzzy" towards her. Schlossberg would have been a big crowd pleaser among the Dems, though her whole first few years would have to have been pure OJT. At least this nominee can be seen as an experienced legislatrix.

    As to Schumer, I tend to loathe his policy stances on 90% of the issues -- but I will admit that he does keep the interestes of NY in mind (some Senators lose their path more thoroughly).
    "The only way that has ever been discovered to have a lot of people cooperate together voluntarily is through the free market. And that's why it's so essential to preserving individual freedom.” -- Milton Friedman

    "The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule." -- H. L. Mencken

  12. #12
    Arena Senior Member Crazed Rabbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Between the Mountain and the Sound
    Posts
    11,074
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    The ship is sinking! Commence firing!

    Gov Paterson unloads on Kennedy.

    According to sources, at least - but why am I not surprised at this evaluation of Kennedy?

    CR
    Ja Mata, Tosa.

    The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder

  13. #13
    Nobody expects the Senior Member Lemur's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Wisconsin Death Trip
    Posts
    15,754

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Lots of news today, let's see, Blago said he considered Oprah, and he's going on a media blitz tour while the Illinois Senate indicts him. How does he walk with balls that big?

    Also, a New Yorker writer produces one of their 10,000 word articles about Caroline Kennedy. It's a long, tedious read, redeemed by the a few choice quotes:

    Caroline Kennedy’s friends are always saying how normal she is, and it appears that they are right. Normal people do not run for the Senate. Normal people with lots of money and families that they like tend to want to enjoy the money and the families. They do not spend their winters on the phone grovelling for support, or their summers at obscure state fairs ingesting disagreeable and fattening local food. [...]

    Paterson has appointed Kirsten Gillibrand, a second-term congresswoman from Hudson, near Albany. “Paterson has no comprehension of upstate New York, absolutely none, and has chosen someone better at representing cows than people,” Lawrence O’Donnell says. “What you have is the daughter of a lobbyist, instead of the daughter of a former President or the son of a former governor. This is the hack world producing the hack result that the hacks are happy with.”

    -edit-

    Blago on The View, part 1 and part 2.
    Last edited by Lemur; 01-26-2009 at 20:50.

  14. #14
    The very model of a modern Moderator Xiahou's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2002
    Location
    in the cloud.
    Posts
    9,007

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Paterson has appointed Kirsten Gillibrand, a second-term congresswoman from Hudson, near Albany. “Paterson has no comprehension of upstate New York, absolutely none, and has chosen someone better at representing cows than people,” Lawrence O’Donnell says. “What you have is the daughter of a lobbyist, instead of the daughter of a former President or the son of a former governor. This is the hack world producing the hack result that the hacks are happy with.”
    That alone leads me to think it was a decent choice. If this blowhard hates her so much, she can't be all bad.
    Last edited by Xiahou; 01-26-2009 at 21:22.
    "Don't believe everything you read online."
    -Abraham Lincoln

  15. #15
    Arena Senior Member Crazed Rabbit's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2003
    Location
    Between the Mountain and the Sound
    Posts
    11,074
    Blog Entries
    1

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Lemur View Post
    Paterson has appointed Kirsten Gillibrand, a second-term congresswoman from Hudson, near Albany. “Paterson has no comprehension of upstate New York, absolutely none, and has chosen someone better at representing cows than people,” Lawrence O’Donnell says. “What you have is the daughter of a lobbyist, instead of the daughter of a former President or the son of a former governor. This is the hack world producing the hack result that the hacks are happy with.”[/indent]
    Memo from the 21st century, pal:
    We no longer select rulers by dynasty. You better try real hard to get your tiny, rigid brain around that fact.

    And yes, Blago has some massive cojones. But it's all for nothing.

    CR
    Ja Mata, Tosa.

    The poorest man may in his cottage bid defiance to all the forces of the Crown. It may be frail; its roof may shake; the wind may blow through it; the storm may enter; the rain may enter; but the King of England cannot enter – all his force dares not cross the threshold of the ruined tenement! - William Pitt the Elder

  16. #16
    Nobody expects the Senior Member Lemur's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2004
    Location
    Wisconsin Death Trip
    Posts
    15,754

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    I'd just like to know what's so bad about representing cows?

    -edit-

    Meanwhile, the Franken-Coleman trial began this afternoon. I'm sure it's all terribly exciting, although Coleman has kind of shown his hand by taking a lobbyist job already.
    Last edited by Lemur; 01-26-2009 at 23:22.

  17. #17
    Master of useless knowledge Senior Member Kitten Shooting Champion, Eskiv Champion Ironside's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2003
    Location
    Sweden
    Posts
    4,902

    Default Re: U.S. Senate: Burning Down the House

    Quote Originally Posted by Crazed Rabbit View Post
    Memo from the 21st century, pal:
    We no longer select rulers by dynasty. You better try real hard to get your tiny, rigid brain around that fact.

    And yes, Blago has some massive cojones. But it's all for nothing.

    CR
    You just keep naming them as such...

    Obama II vs Mccain III
    Bush II vs Kerry
    Bush II vs Gore II
    Clinton III (well, before the name change) vs Dole

    It was slightly better before that though, but the senate seems to have a simular naming habit.

    Spoiler Alert, click show to read: 
    Yeah, yeah got a new hobby pointing that out after I realized how commmon that is in the US
    We are all aware that the senses can be deceived, the eyes fooled. But how can we be sure our senses are not being deceived at any particular time, or even all the time? Might I just be a brain in a tank somewhere, tricked all my life into believing in the events of this world by some insane computer? And does my life gain or lose meaning based on my reaction to such solipsism?

    Project PYRRHO, Specimen 46, Vat 7
    Activity Recorded M.Y. 2302.22467
    TERMINATION OF SPECIMEN ADVISED

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  
Single Sign On provided by vBSSO