Decisions...

[ReluctantSamurai]

Going back to the issue of Geisha`s that we have been talking about recently, is there any way to delete them from the game so as to stop them from ruining a perfectly good campaign?

There is.....sort of You need to edit the building preference so that a Geisha House is so low on the preference list, it never gets built...............unless.................you go ahead and build one yourself and start training geisha.

There was just such a discussion about this not too long ago.

I personally feel that geisha are cheesy and so I do not use them myself nor do I permit the AI to use them. However, if you feel that you must have them in the game there are certain tactics to deal with them.

First and foremost, you must seek out and destroy geisha lairs no matter who has them, and even if it means starting a war with someone you'd rather not be fighting just at the moment. Better that than suffer Caravel's fate. (If you see a geisha, even if she has not targeted you, rest assured that someday she will be aimed in your direction. Better to kill her before she gains experience as it will only get tougher to eliminate her.) Raze the place to the ground ensuring that it will take some years before a new one can arise. You can send out shinobi to scout, but source areas are quite predictable: Hojo geisha are likely from Sagami, Takeda's from Kai, Uesugi from Mutsu or Echigo, Shimazu from Satsuma or sometimes Hizen......in other words, the provinces that were the most developed at the start of the campaign, and almost always a port province. This means that you can land an invasion force, raze the facilities to the ground, and leave the very next season......no fuss, no muss, and extra cash from looting to boot.

Second, get several lvl 5 ninjas or better, asap. They have a 50% chance against a lvl 0 geisha, so one of them is bound to get her.

Thirdly, flood the province where the assassination is being attempted with mid to high level shinobi (lvl 3+). And move in a larger garrison. This will more than likely delay a successful assassination long enough for your ninja to get there.

Before I decided on the building preference edit method, that 3-step plan was just about fool-proof. I never lost either my Daimyo or an heir (on expert setting, btw). Once in a while, a minor general might fall, but the geisha's career was short-lived after that, as was the province that spawned her...

I had a very fun-filled campaign ruined by the use of geisha, although the reverse of what happened to Caravel. Early in my STW gaming career, I had a Uesugi campaign end prematurely after training up a super-geisha (lvl 6) who went happily around the board assassinating every Daimyo and heir from every clan that was still on the board at the time. So now instead of intriguing plots and nail-biting battles, it became a boring trudge across rebel-held provinces. "The thrill is gone" as the song goes.......................That was the first, and last time I used geisha.


Found it:https://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?t=65690